Filters, what do you prefer
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
ZDF filters are nothing really special anymore and even not taxing cpu that much (i can run f.e. dozens of them on my old phone in Drambo).
Oh yes, i like the iOS Drambo modular filters. Not the best of the best but very low on cpu, ZDF and i can run 20 in a row while modulate it with an OSC.
Still i would mostly like the P900 filters as FX which are so far my favorite from all i ever used. They really can sing even at full resonance, lots of saturation and modulated with several OSCs.
Oh yes, i like the iOS Drambo modular filters. Not the best of the best but very low on cpu, ZDF and i can run 20 in a row while modulate it with an OSC.
Still i would mostly like the P900 filters as FX which are so far my favorite from all i ever used. They really can sing even at full resonance, lots of saturation and modulated with several OSCs.
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- KVRAF
- 1841 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
UAD Moog Filter is pretty damn good, often use it to just fatten up softsynths. The drive is amazing.
For simple filter tasks i mostly use Soundtoys Filterfreak.
For simple filter tasks i mostly use Soundtoys Filterfreak.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
Its ok but doesnt sound like Moogs hardware. I tested Moog Sub37 against UAD... huge difference in sound.dionenoid wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:59 pm UAD Moog Filter is pretty damn good, often use it to just fatten up softsynths. The drive is amazing.
For simple filter tasks i mostly use Soundtoys Filterfreak.
And audiorate modulation in software is meh, so far.
Can The Drop do audiorate mod? Might have to demo it again...
In context few ppl will notice much difference between plugs and/or analog hardware, but a good sounding filter is so inspirational to work with.....
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- KVRist
- 153 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from UK
Like a beast.. Using sidechain input or internal modulation
If I'm being honest, I go for Drop (or Vult filters in VCV) over most of my Eurorack these days. Quicker to set up for levels and ranges, and quite often they have a wider palette of "sweet spots"..cnt wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:02 am In context few ppl will notice much difference between plugs and/or analog hardware, but a good sounding filter is so inspirational to work with.....
- KVRAF
- 1841 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
I tested it against MoogerFooger filter pedal (where it's mostly modelled on). It was close enough for me to sell my MoogerFooger.cnt wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:02 amIts ok but doesnt sound like Moogs hardware. I tested Moog Sub37 against UAD... huge difference in sound.dionenoid wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:59 pm UAD Moog Filter is pretty damn good, often use it to just fatten up softsynths. The drive is amazing.
For simple filter tasks i mostly use Soundtoys Filterfreak.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRAF
- 3369 posts since 16 Jan, 2005 from Ottawa, Ontario
Can someone ease break this down a little more? What plugin has what kind of filter? Audibly they sound very different but a bit more information would be great. I just got a new freebie called plasticity that's my new favourite. I can hear why but would like to understand why as well.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1574 posts since 21 Nov, 2018
What is it you're asking ? What's the difference between all the filter types ? Why you like one over the other ?Debutante wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:23 pm Can someone ease break this down a little more? What plugin has what kind of filter? Audibly they sound very different but a bit more information would be great. I just got a new freebie called plasticity that's my new favourite. I can hear why but would like to understand why as well.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
I demo'ed The Drop... I dont think it emulates the filters close enough. It's a great plugin but it does not sound the same as the originals. I own a Doepfer Wasp filter, when compared to WSP filter in Drop I can hear what it is trying to emulate, but it is not behaving close enough. It does not give me the goosebumps....
Its surprising that so few developers have nailed the filters they try to emulate.
I do run my projects in 44khz, not sure if that matters....
Its surprising that so few developers have nailed the filters they try to emulate.
I do run my projects in 44khz, not sure if that matters....
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- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
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- KVRian
- 874 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
do you turn on internal oversampling?
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 18 Feb, 2004
Yeah but bleached or unbleached?
- KVRAF
- 18395 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I just bought that, and it is indeed great. I also bought the UAD OTO Biscuit emulation (also available as a native plugin) and I was using it on a RYTM last night and it’s amazing. You can sequence filter type, cutoff and resonance per step. Fun, and sounds fantastic.dionenoid wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:59 pm UAD Moog Filter is pretty damn good, often use it to just fatten up softsynths. The drive is amazing.
For simple filter tasks i mostly use Soundtoys Filterfreak.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
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- KVRAF
- 18395 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I think you’re comparing Granny Smith apples to Honeycrisp apples. The Phatty line of Moogs don’t sound (I’ve owned the Little Phatty and Sub Phatty) like the more traditional Moog filter that the UAD was modeled after. The Mother 32 sounded closer, IMO, as do the Grandmother and Matriarch.cnt wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:02 amIts ok but doesnt sound like Moogs hardware. I tested Moog Sub37 against UAD... huge difference in sound.
The audio rate modulation in Legend, RePro, Dune 3 and Reaktor (when run at 88 khz or higher) are very good. Hardware good? Maybe a bit more polite, but sometimes that’s a bonus.And audiorate modulation in software is meh, so far.
Can The Drop do audiorate mod? Might have to demo it again...
I don’t think it’s necessarily that people don’t notice the difference, but more like they don’t view the difference in a qualitative way. The wild sound of an overdriven analog filter being modulated at audio rates just isn’t for everyone. Most music I hear sounds pretty tame, for the most part. I agree with you, in that when you’re really going for that extra mile, hardware is crucial, but software can cover a lot of ground, and often has abilities that are unmatched in hardware.In context few ppl will notice much difference between plugs and/or analog hardware, but a good sounding filter is so inspirational to work with...
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