Diva Sounds Consistently Better Than my Prophet 08. HELP!

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david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:I'm still on the fence with the Prophet 6 and now also the new DSI/Oberheim.
That's sad. Prophet 6 as well it's very similarly sounding brother OB-6 is quite a good synth for modern analog scene. Have you spend any time with it?
Urs wrote:We got the DSI filter for Eurorack modulars. It sounds a tad harsher than, say, the filters of a Pro One or a Prophet 600. Or, in other words, I think that filters based on the CEM 3320 and 3372 chips sound smoother than filters based on the 3396.
Well, AFAIK
DSI filter for eurorack is the same chip as was in P12 / P08 - tetra - mopho / evover
DSI filter on Prophet 6 is discrete SSM2040 clone.
DSI filter on OB 8 is discrete CEM3320 clone.
DSI filters on Pro2 are SSM2040 and CEM3320 clone.

So your comparison is not correct, there are certain resonance/cutoff harshness on P6 as well (noticable even on preset 001) but P6 unlike any vintage/analog/charming in basic tone of VCO and VCF that previous DSI synths lack
Urs wrote:Somehow at high resonance there'd be more disturbance when the resonance breaks off from the input spectrum and when it aligns back. It's not too far off though and of course our Prophets are 30+ years old. We yet have to study the DSI in depth though, there may be more to say about it.
Keep us posted, it's very interesting.
Did you mean to write DSI filter on OB6?
If that's the case, it is not a discrete CEM3320 clone (it's not a discrete CEM3320 clone on the Pro 2 either) it is basically the Oberheim SEM filter on both the Pro2 and OB6.

The CEM3320 IC was used on the OBXa, and OB8, as well as some other synths like the Prophet 5 rev 3, and the Elka Synthex (but in different configurations).

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Interesting conversation. In my experience, DCO vs VCO oscillators has a bigger impact on the sound than the type of filter on the synth. I'm sure there may be exceptions, but I've had more unique and unpredictable results with VCO-based synths. And I'm bringing this up because, as most of you probably know, the Prophet 08 has DCO osscilators.

Anybody else feel that way?

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Haha just made this discovery myself... Just sold my Prophet 08 after stumbling across the Diva.

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Sold my P8 many years ago but still had diva at that stage AFAIK. I still go back and listen to the P8 and miss it. The nuances is what I miss. However Diva is unquestionably a go to in most projects. I prefer it wmfor bass over NIs monarkbut then that still has its place. If funds and famy weren't limiting I'd have it all haha.

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I think Repro 5 covers a lot of ground for anything like the prophet 08 for the most part....Its such a toss up for me between Diva and Repro 1/5.

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