Just like the other developer you're talking about above....how many "fresh starts" does one deserve ?
Avoid Analog Obsession at all costs!
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- KVRAF
- 18546 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRist
- 482 posts since 10 Mar, 2013
Honestly if he came in here and was like,
"Hey so, I apologize everyone, I have some issues I'm working out with my therapist, and my behavior in this thread has been a regression in my progress. I'm sure you can understand that it just makes me feel threatened when a bunch of people gang up on my business because it is both my livelihood and a project of passion, so I care a great deal about it, sometimes to the point of acting out online. You have my word I will try to do better going forward. For now, please rest assured my plugins are safe to use, and I sincerely apologize for any inconveniences the hacking incident may have caused for you. In fact, if you were personally affected by this, send me a message and I will give you first access to an upcoming plugin before anyone else has it."
If he said something like that, I'd 100% forgive and forget and I'm sure the rest of you would too.
In my opinion a person deserves as many fresh starts as they ask for. But someone in here I think said, don't give undue forgiveness to a person who hasn't asked for it. And with his conduct, he certainly is not asking.
"Hey so, I apologize everyone, I have some issues I'm working out with my therapist, and my behavior in this thread has been a regression in my progress. I'm sure you can understand that it just makes me feel threatened when a bunch of people gang up on my business because it is both my livelihood and a project of passion, so I care a great deal about it, sometimes to the point of acting out online. You have my word I will try to do better going forward. For now, please rest assured my plugins are safe to use, and I sincerely apologize for any inconveniences the hacking incident may have caused for you. In fact, if you were personally affected by this, send me a message and I will give you first access to an upcoming plugin before anyone else has it."
If he said something like that, I'd 100% forgive and forget and I'm sure the rest of you would too.
In my opinion a person deserves as many fresh starts as they ask for. But someone in here I think said, don't give undue forgiveness to a person who hasn't asked for it. And with his conduct, he certainly is not asking.
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- KVRian
- 1317 posts since 26 Aug, 2019
I have observed this deep collective hatred of Tunca for his past actions and a shortness of forgiveness around here. Maybe justifiably so. I could be the fool for defending a rascal. Clearly he's brought it on himself. He doesn't communicate in a polite manner. He has had a lot of missteps and backtracked on various statements. His first go at his business endeavor went down in malware flames.
How is he harming anyone today? I have seen a lot of dredging up of the past. I don't want to defend the guy for whatever shit he's done to wrong people in the past. He hasn't wronged me. But y'all need to ask yourselves at what point in time has he been flogged enough for past actions? If you don't like this developer and don't see yourself ever using any of his plugins, the path of least resistance is to ignore him and all threads about AO.
Were he to be a troll farmer with an army of sock puppets sticking up for his honor, prove it and have him permanently banned. He'll slip up eventually and not use the proxy one time. Even if you can't prove it, and he continues to defend himself with sock puppets as is alleged, I'm not seeing any real damage. I mean real damage.
For the record, I am not a Tunca loyalist, which is still a fair thing to call me for the positions I have taken. I have given him about $20 on Patreon to date.
How is he harming anyone today? I have seen a lot of dredging up of the past. I don't want to defend the guy for whatever shit he's done to wrong people in the past. He hasn't wronged me. But y'all need to ask yourselves at what point in time has he been flogged enough for past actions? If you don't like this developer and don't see yourself ever using any of his plugins, the path of least resistance is to ignore him and all threads about AO.
Were he to be a troll farmer with an army of sock puppets sticking up for his honor, prove it and have him permanently banned. He'll slip up eventually and not use the proxy one time. Even if you can't prove it, and he continues to defend himself with sock puppets as is alleged, I'm not seeing any real damage. I mean real damage.
For the record, I am not a Tunca loyalist, which is still a fair thing to call me for the positions I have taken. I have given him about $20 on Patreon to date.
Last edited by kidslow on Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105764 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
forgive perhaps...
trust, different question.
how many times you do let a dog bite you before giving it up as a bad dog?
trust, different question.
how many times you do let a dog bite you before giving it up as a bad dog?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105764 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRist
- 482 posts since 10 Mar, 2013
Omfg. Thread over. The best post has been made
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- addled muppet weed
- 105764 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
I would eat the dog and then bite Vurt
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- KVRAF
- 2281 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from Doritos Land where no goblins are allowed
I'm talking about his new business model actually. Now that he's giving his plugins for free, you can't require the same things (support, quality) than from payware. And it seems to me this is what he's ranting about.
The other developper is simply an a$$hole.
Please don’t read the above post. It’s a stupid one. Simply pass.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105764 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i like the cut of your moxy!
youre hired!!
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- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007 - KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
No you haven't. You haven't "observed" it, because it isn't there.
What you will find is people who are justifiably wary of him. But hatred? Nah!!
...just in case we were unsure about the calibre of your observations??kidslow wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:34 pmHow is he harming anyone today? I have seen a lot of dredging up of the past. I don't want to defend the guy for whatever shit he's done to wrong people in the past. He hasn't wronged me. But y'all need to ask yourselves at what point in time has he been flogged enough for past actions? If you don't like this developer and don't see yourself ever using any of his plugins, the path of least resistance is to ignore him and all threads about AO
You do realise this thread was a year dead before a new member undead-ed it, right?
viewtopic.php?p=7701850#p7701850
Even then, once it had a chance of dying away a few weeks back, another new member brings it right back to the front-page:
viewtopic.php?p=7724999#p7724999
Like I said, I personally believe that Tunca is sending these folks over to do his bidding. Not sure it's working out for him, if that is the case
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- addled muppet weed
- 105764 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
