PACE now owns JUCE = interesting but prob no impact

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Watchful wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:49 amNo more than a VST that relies on iLok is Tracktion's fault.
I don't know what you mean. Are you sure you're responding to something that I said?
Watchful wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:49 amTracktion has nothing to do with this.
I thought that Waveform is built using JUCE, but maybe I'm wrong. Sounds like you have some inside information that I am unaware of.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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chk071 wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:48 pm Again, that's pure speculation.
So is this:
I don’t think ilok will have anything to do with JUCE. Or tracktion.
You seem to be selective in the type of speculation worth speaking out against.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Should I quote every post that I think is pure speculation then?
pough wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:27 am You seem to be selective in the type of speculation worth speaking out against.
That's pure speculation, bro. ;)

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https://www.musictech.net/news/roli-pac ... quisition/

Interesting that Jules Storer, creator of Tracktion and Juce, is staying at ROLI.
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I was so glad with the new JUCE 6 branch features. Now I'm anxious that "iLok" owns JUCE.
At least it's still GPL.

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I was wondering what the future would bring for plugins that use the juce framework , now that juce is acquired by pace
Could this mean that they would require a pace /ilok protection in the future ?
I get horrified by the idea of TAL / Cytomic plugins being ilokked .
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:53 pm Could this mean that they would require a pace /ilok protection in the future ?
A requirement is unlikely, I would say. My... speculation is that future versions of JUCE will make it very easy to include PACE and there also might be incentives.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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That would be my speculation too. PACE probably just looked for a worthwhile purchase, and, JUCE is a popular framework, AFAIC.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:52 pm And helps explain why Waveform has been supporting SOUL so “early”.
Doesnt help explain it to me, please expand....
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:53 pm Could this mean that they would require a pace /ilok protection in the future ?
Yeah, just like a ROLI keyboard was 'required' for the last 6 years. :roll:
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whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:39 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:52 pm And helps explain why Waveform has been supporting SOUL so “early”.
Doesnt help explain it to me, please expand....
agreed. i don't understand how it explains anything to do with SOUL.

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whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:43 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:53 pm Could this mean that they would require a pace /ilok protection in the future ?
Yeah, just like a ROLI keyboard was 'required' for the last 6 years. :roll:
It’s as if you’re suggesting they are not required!

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whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:39 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:52 pm And helps explain why Waveform has been supporting SOUL so “early”.
Doesnt help explain it to me, please expand....
1) Jules created/manages SOUL (fact)
2) He likely knew JUCE was for sale or would be (speculation)

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:55 am
whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:39 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:52 pm And helps explain why Waveform has been supporting SOUL so “early”.
Doesnt help explain it to me, please expand....
1) Jules created/manages SOUL (fact)
2) He likely knew JUCE was for sale or would be (speculation)
And?

The fact that Jules created JUCE, and Tracktion and SOUL would be an fairly obvious explanation for why Waveform supports SOUL.

So the fact that you said that JUCE being sold to PACE is the explanation of why Waveform supports SOUL cant really be supported by that, a completely distinct and separate and non-overlapping explanation.

And given that Jules was never NOT going to know that JUCE was being sold to PACE, Jules' knowledge of JUCE being sold to PACE doesnt really explain any correlation between Waveform (something not being sold to PACE) and SOUL (something also not being sold to PACE)

What you actually need for an explanation of your claim is something which refutes that SOUL wouldnt have gone into Tracktion except for the change of ownership of JUCE.

The explanation of your statement 'PACE bought JUCE explains why Waveform added SOUL'
is what Im after, not some random separate stuff about Jules.
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OK.

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