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Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:44 am

Dúnedain wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:42 am It doesn’t matter as it are the FX doing the real work.

Rubbish.......

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:44 am

Damn buttons......

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:43 am

Dúnedain wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:42 am It doesn’t matter as it are the FX doing the real work.

much truth to that statement.
theres many unique and memorable sounds
created by FX processing in one way or another.
the violin riff in the middle of ELO's "evil woman"
for example.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:37 am

And if you took the Violin away ?

Certainly FX are part of the sound design process but saying they are doing the "real work" is....well as I said rubbish.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:26 am

I might have another suggestion, if you are willing to spend $80 on a synth. I reckon Audio Damage's Continua would be a great synth to learn on. I've been trying the demo and the interface gives you great visual feedback of everything that is happening. It is mostly a single page GUI, except that you can only see one envelope and one LFO at a time. But modulation routings are plentiful and easy and you can see how modulations affect the values of parameters. It's also sounds pretty good, so it's a synth you'll probably keep using for a while.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:58 am

Whoops! Double post.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:03 am

it seems logical to start with a freeware/opensource synth.
then when you think you know how the main blocks of a synth work, you can buy one.

george · Post by **george** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:20 am

peakles wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:13 pm Hi there!

I'm a guitar who is beggining in the world of synths (through Syntorial). And there are SO MANY synth options that is difficult to judge where I should start. I'd like something versatile with good presets and something where I can work on through the Syntorial lessons.

Could anyone recommend me some synth to start but that I would keep and develop on?

Thanks a lot!

Recommendation:

george · Post by **george** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:25 am

This YouTube playlist is worth checking out too.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... nZPbF8ICFf

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:47 am

OP: use something that inspires you, cheap or expensive, simple or complex.

enCiphered · Post by **enCiphered** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:52 am

Rob Papen´s Go2 is also very straightforward and affordable. And it sounds amazing, sorry if it has already been mentioned.

peakles · Post by **peakles** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:53 pm

Hey guys, thanks a lot for all the replies.

I will definitely check all your suggestions, and I think that the idea of having something which is inspiring makes a lot of sense. If I really like it, I wouldn't mind paying for a more expensive synth, since I'll be (hopefully!) using it for a long time. On the other hand, learning in a freeware can help me to figure better what I should search in a paid synth, as some of you mentioned. I actually already use synths in my productions, but I don't know how to find or design the sound I want, so I use basically only the presets. This is why I'm beginning to study about it.

I was trying the MSoundFactory, as I took the Melda's 3-month free subscription, but, besides enjoying the presets, I feel a bit lost and somehow intimidated by the GUI.

Thank you all for the tips, it really helped clarifying what I should search for. =)

All the best!

Kwurqx · Post by **Kwurqx** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:58 pm

peakles wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:53 pm Hey guys, thanks a lot for all the replies.

I will definitely check all your suggestions, and I think that the idea of having something which is inspiring makes a lot of sense. If I really like it, I wouldn't mind paying for a more expensive synth, since I'll be (hopefully!) using it for a long time. On the other hand, learning in a freeware can help me to figure better what I should search in a paid synth, as some of you mentioned. I actually already use synths in my productions, but I don't know how to find or design the sound I want, so I use basically only the presets. This is why I'm beginning to study about it.

I was trying the MSoundFactory, as I took the Melda's 3-month free subscription, but, besides enjoying the presets, I feel a bit lost and somehow intimidated by the GUI.

Thank you all for the tips, it really helped clarifying what I should search for. =)

All the best!

I usually recommend starting your journey using free tools. There are plenty of great ones around. Both synths and FX. And base subsequent tool choices (free or commercial) on more knowledge and experiences.

Whatever tool you use, you will need some basic knowledge to get predictable/desirable results. Just fiddling with knobs will soon get frustrating. Same goes for starting with complicated tools (like the mega versatile MSoundFactory). With flexibility comes complexity. First master the basics, then expand towards more complex stuff/tools.

Check out this free ebook: How To Make A Noise
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293

One of the synths used for the examples is the excellent, versatile and free Surge. If you start with ignoring the versatile modulation matrix, you can explore basic subtractive, FM, AM, PM, PWM, Wavetable synthesis and more.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/surge-by-vember-audio
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/

And check out the KVR Sound Design forum for some hands on tips and tricks.
viewforum.php?f=100

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm

peakles wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:13 pm Could anyone recommend me some synth to start but that I would keep and develop on?

Thanks a lot!

A free one. Lots of great options available.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm

Teksonik wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:44 am
Dúnedain wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:42 am It doesn’t matter as it are the FX doing the real work.
Rubbish.......

No it's not

Synth recommendation for a newbie