what are the DAWs that are good for Audio and Midi

[fairlyclose]

Bitwig is too basic for audio editing

Sorry, but that's just not true. It can do almost everything other DAWs can (it can't quantize audio) it's just that the workflow needs some time to wrap your head around, because their idea of clip containers f**ked some things up, without giving any benefits in return.

But it's anything but basic.

I have been looking around at videos on youtube and Bitwig does look very good - but it is not very compatible with working to video - thats pretty much the end of it for me. If they ever get basic video functions for composing to picture I will definitely be tempted

But you said "audio editing", not "video editing". If you said the latter I'd not object, obviously

not looking to edit video in a DAW, but compose to picture for sure and I should have mentioned that. Apparently there is a workaround for Bitwig

[antic604]

not looking to edit video in a DAW, but compose to picture for sure and I should have mentioned that. Apparently there is a workaround for Bitwig

Yes, I heard this one works good:
https://www.vidplayvst.com/index.htm

[fmr]

If you are serious about using MIDI, audio, and virtual instruments, then Cubase is your answer. The only one that could rival to Cubase when it comes to MIDI and MIDI tools is Digital Performer. Actually, that would be my second choice.

why do you say that? What tools does Cubase offer that are unique or with superior workflow. Looking at Bitwig, the modulation is very comprehensive but I am unfamiliar with what is on offer in Cubase

Just try it. I would need to write a manual to explain that

Of course, it alway depends on what kind of music you write and what are your working habits. I come from the old school, and I think and write music linearly. Rarely use loops, and even repetitions tend to not be literal. Therefore, A linear tool like Cubase and Digital Performer is much more useful to me than something that was mainly conceived to work with loops or repeated sections.

As a rule of thumb, you can follow this: New DAWs usually have very poor MIDI tools, and deal poorly with MIDI data. Thay rarely have tools to edit it, or transform it. Cubase and Digital Performer were born in a time when digital audio didn't exist, and MIDI was their universe. Therefore, they have that advantage. You have multiple editing windows to edit MIDI data, like piano roll, event list and score eding. Try to find that in the other DAWs. Usually, you have the piano roll and that's it. And you rarely (if at all) have macro tools to edit MIDI data.

[trusampler]

Cubase is very capable of what you're looking for.

[gentleclockdivider]

Cubase and Digital Performer were born in a time when digital audio didn't exist, and MIDI was their universe. Therefore, they have that advantage. You have multiple editing windows to edit MIDI data, like piano roll, event list and score eding. Try to find that in the other DAWs. Usually, you have the piano roll and that's it. And you rarely (if at all) have macro tools to edit MIDI data.

Don't forget notator ( now logic )

[Septimon]

You might want to give Cubase Elements a try

[fmr]

Cubase and Digital Performer were born in a time when digital audio didn't exist, and MIDI was their universe. Therefore, they have that advantage. You have multiple editing windows to edit MIDI data, like piano roll, event list and score eding. Try to find that in the other DAWs. Usually, you have the piano roll and that's it. And you rarely (if at all) have macro tools to edit MIDI data.

Don't forget notator ( now logic )

I am talking of Windows, since I got the impression that the OP is in Windows. But if not, then Logic has to be included too, of course.

EDIT: I am right. He specifically mentioned Windows 10. So, Logic has no place in this picture