MSF: Are Modulators really so powerful?

[basicinsynth]

1. It's unbelievable that I can't control with the multi-parameters the triggering options of the modulators. So, if I'm developing an interface for an instrument that has a global LFO I can't put in the LFO (of the instrument) the "triggering" option unless I "program" (in MSF) two or more identical LFO in different modulators with different triggering options and switch between them. Unthinkable!

2. If the per-voice modulation sources have their MIDI options for the modulation and all the slots (A, B, C, D) for multiple rescaling factors, "modulations of the modulation..."; and if the global MIDI settings of MSF (for how I see it, and for coherency) should be for the multi parameters and the GUI we create; where are the MIDI options (and if we want, the rescaling matrixes) dedicated for the modulators?

3. Yes, I can use the global MIDI settings of MSF for the modulators also, but they are very limited. They are not up to control a modulator that should control several other parameters. They are OK for the multi-parameters and the GUI (for them should be used) but not for the modulators! And than...We put the case that I use one global MIDI-setting slot to control with the aftertouch a global LFO frequency (created with a modulator). It's possible, yes. But When I "export" the instrument that MIDI slot control it's still occupied by that controller that I used to control the instrument LFO. The final-user of the instrument should not see it, and what it is worse he can modify or delete it with the result that the instrument would not work anymore!

4. If we can accept this, and we all consider MSF as a product to develop also "instruments" and "interfaces" for OTHER users, the user-developer (of this instruments) could use a lot of these spaces (there are 32 of them in total) in the global MIDI settings with the result that the final-user could have very few of them to control the instrument or plugin GUI. And as I said, he could accidentally modify them.

5. If modulators are great for their functions in audio-fx Melda plugins, they seem to be in an "nobody land" in the semi-modular system of MSF and not at all fitted for the claims of a great product like MSF. We can't control all the potential that MSF offers! And to add, all the stuff that happens in the FX tab it's controllable only with the modulators, all the parameters of all the FXs. The modulators as they were created for other plugins are not enough for MSF!

So, this is my thought on the modulators in MSF, maybe I'm wrong and still didn't understand the correct functionality of MSF. There could be more to say. But that said we all still love MSF and MeldaProduction products, knowing that other companies are not at all better!

Thank you!

[MeldaProduction]

1. That's because every modulatable/automatable parameter requires memory and CPU, so only stuff that seemed useful for modulation was added. I personally don't even know which parameter you mean, especially since you didn't specify the plugin and if you are talking about per-voice or global modulation.

2. I'm completely lost in that question, sorry.

3. I'm afraid I'm lost as well. I guess you need to show screenshots / videos.

4. Same thing... since it is related to 2/3 probably.

5. Did you even notice the per-voice modulation??? If so, then I'm lost again.

Not much of a help, sorry, but I just don't understand you. Language barrier perhaps...

[basicinsynth]

1. -I have not spoken of modulation but of controlling the MIDI RESET-(RE)TRIGGER options of the Modulators!
-I'm speaking of MSoundFactort, it's clear!
-And I'm speaking of Modulators! If you call them "Modulators" (and there are six videos on your channel and on your site on them -https://www.meldaproduction.com/tutoria ... modulators), then I call them "Modulators" or, if you now prefer, global Modulation!! It's clear!!

2. Put simply: we don't have the same Midi controlling options for Global Modulation, alias Modulators (I hope that now it's clear!) that we have for Per Voice Modulation; only the "MIDI settings" in the global window of MSF, and this brings us to point 3;

3. -IF I use the Aftertouch control in the "MIDI settings" of the global window of MSF to control the Modulator frequency parameter (I hope it's clear!);
-and THEN, I use "export device" in the "designer menu" to create a device;
-WHEN I open the exported device, the Aftertouch control is still visible, editable, erasable in the "MIDI settings"!

In my modest opinion, it should not be so!
There is no need for a video, try it!
(sorry for the IFs, THENs, ELSEs, ORs, WHENs...but for a programmer it should be clear!)

4. Yes, this is related to the first three, you understood! If now the first three points are clear, also point 4 should be clear!

5. - If I need a global modulation to modulate simultaneously and equally the frequency of three different oscillators, why should I use the per voice modulation?
-Sorry, but in the "FX" tab of MSF (I hope that it's clear) there are not per voice modulators! Did you notice it?
-Maybe at this point, we are all lost!

Yes, maybe I'm not a native Englishman and my English is not perfect;
but, I have used technical terms and I'm "speaking" to people that use the same instruments that I use;
and especially I'm "speaking" to people (maybe you Vojtech) that developed these instruments and the technical terms that I used!

Sorry if I presumed that you would have understood!

You are right! Language barrier PERHAPS...

Thank you!

[MeldaProduction]

1. Sorry, I missed the MSF. But there are 2 modulation systems in MSF.

2. Yes, it's much more difficult in there. What exactly are you missing? For the record, it will NOT be that powerful.

3. Are you saying that you expect the plugin to delete the MIDI created by the designer?? That really dooesn't make sense, sorry.

4. The user is free to edit stuff, of course.

5. Per-voice modulation is related to VOICES, not oscillators. Imagine you hold more than a single note. That should also make it clear, why per voice modulation can never be in FX section.