F'em
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
Any plans for what quarter F'em will drop?
Can you post both sides of that flyer that was at NAMM somewhere in the meantime?
Quick question as I cant tell from the NAMM video screenshots.
Am i misinterpreting the flyer or are you limited to only having two sample operators in an 11 op configuration? If so, is there a reason why you wouldn't allow any of the 11 operators to be any of the 11 operator types? That seems like it would unnecessarily limit the sample manglers and be less useful to me, as you can already do 4 sample operator FM in biotek now. Its just not freely assignable and limited to the 10 Yamaha configurations.
Thanks,
Can you post both sides of that flyer that was at NAMM somewhere in the meantime?
Quick question as I cant tell from the NAMM video screenshots.
Am i misinterpreting the flyer or are you limited to only having two sample operators in an 11 op configuration? If so, is there a reason why you wouldn't allow any of the 11 operators to be any of the 11 operator types? That seems like it would unnecessarily limit the sample manglers and be less useful to me, as you can already do 4 sample operator FM in biotek now. Its just not freely assignable and limited to the 10 Yamaha configurations.
Thanks,
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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Wolfram Franke Wolfram Franke https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=222340
- KVRist
- 79 posts since 25 Dec, 2009 from Germany
Hi bermudagold,
we are working full steam on F'em and hope to release it in the not too distant future.
Your are correct that there are two sample operators, one before the cluster of 8 single-cycle operators and one behind it, allowing you to both frequency-modulate those 8 operators by one sample and frequency-modulating the other sample by any of the 8 operators or by the first sample (there is also a noise operator that can fm any of the other operators).
The reason for that is basically performance: All operators (noise, 2 sample, 8 single-cycle, and the 2 filters) allow arbitrary feedforward into any of the following operators by way of a matrix mixer. The 8 single-cycle operators additionally allow arbitrary feedback into themselves and any of the previous single-cycle operators. For this to work they must be processed per sample rather than per block and this can happen quicker and more efficiently when the circumstances are always the same, i.e. using the same oscillator type all the time.
However, although this is a limitation, I don't think it really hinders you in coming up with great sounds. The architecture is still unbelievably complex and powerful: each operator comes with two LFOs, two envelopes and a level scaling, and a sound can be made up of up to four layers, each with its own 4-slot effect bus.
(And, Biotek is not going away. When you feel that you want to frequency-modulate 4 samples somehow, albeit with predefined algorithms, just use that one)
Best wishes,
Wolfram
we are working full steam on F'em and hope to release it in the not too distant future.
Your are correct that there are two sample operators, one before the cluster of 8 single-cycle operators and one behind it, allowing you to both frequency-modulate those 8 operators by one sample and frequency-modulating the other sample by any of the 8 operators or by the first sample (there is also a noise operator that can fm any of the other operators).
The reason for that is basically performance: All operators (noise, 2 sample, 8 single-cycle, and the 2 filters) allow arbitrary feedforward into any of the following operators by way of a matrix mixer. The 8 single-cycle operators additionally allow arbitrary feedback into themselves and any of the previous single-cycle operators. For this to work they must be processed per sample rather than per block and this can happen quicker and more efficiently when the circumstances are always the same, i.e. using the same oscillator type all the time.
However, although this is a limitation, I don't think it really hinders you in coming up with great sounds. The architecture is still unbelievably complex and powerful: each operator comes with two LFOs, two envelopes and a level scaling, and a sound can be made up of up to four layers, each with its own 4-slot effect bus.
(And, Biotek is not going away. When you feel that you want to frequency-modulate 4 samples somehow, albeit with predefined algorithms, just use that one)
Best wishes,
Wolfram
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
thanks for taking the time to answer and explain....I'm primarily a sample guy...which is why i was curious....I like biotek so will definitely demo F'em....cheers
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- KVRian
- 1414 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from velvet noise
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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
- Banned
- 6787 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
I didn't know Wolfram Wolfram Franke ( waldorf fame , biotek etc.. ) was still developing for tracktion
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
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- KVRAF
- 9843 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Is it in beta yet?
- KVRist
- 236 posts since 9 Feb, 2017
Frequency modulation synth vst. Announced Q1 2020, for the near future.
@9:49 min
cheers
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- KVRist
- 320 posts since 9 Sep, 2017
(about the NAMM
great video, he said their target is not professional mixing engineers who use protools or cubase anyway, but still I must say, when nothing got lost from since T7, plus all the new abilities and PDC, you will get very very far with mixing also, a 100 tracks easily, and complex racks and multitrack-sidechain structures. also besides freebies, I'm using a lot of PA's plugins and some iZotope and they are working well and bring me much closer to the professional sound that I am aiming for.)
great video, he said their target is not professional mixing engineers who use protools or cubase anyway, but still I must say, when nothing got lost from since T7, plus all the new abilities and PDC, you will get very very far with mixing also, a 100 tracks easily, and complex racks and multitrack-sidechain structures. also besides freebies, I'm using a lot of PA's plugins and some iZotope and they are working well and bring me much closer to the professional sound that I am aiming for.)
- KVRian
- 764 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
Watching the video makes me think Tracktion/Waveform should have a merchandise shop. Hell even put an image of Woody for the logo. Could pull in a few extra dollars which would go towards future development of this great DAW. 
- KVRian
- 1414 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from velvet noise
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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?
- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
I'm also very interested in this synth! I hope development is still coming along?
If you need another beta tester, or another contributing sound designer, I'm always available.
If you need another beta tester, or another contributing sound designer, I'm always available.
I'm involved with photography & audio. For more info, take a look at my site:
GlenVision.com
GlenVision.com
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 15 Mar, 2020
Will F'em comes out this year?
