Can anyone please point me in the right direction to set up Satin for a decent ADT emulation please?
I simply don't have the technical info and knowledge to do this myself, as a straight delay ain't gonna cut it so am thinking I need some form of modulation in order to get a true ADT sound here, complete with natural variations?
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
ADT setting for use in Satin, please?
- KVRer
- 5 posts since 30 Apr, 2020
PC-DAW W7 Pro Nuendo 10.2 with WK Audio ID Console controller
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
IMO that certain 'ADT sound' is a bit of a hyperbole and mystified, maybe partly because back in the old days it could only be achieved by 'misusing' precision recording gear. But today it just boils down to a very simple thing. Sinusoidial modulation of a copied piece of audio.
You can achieve that in Satin by using the 'delay' mode, and setting up 2 or 4 virtual 'heads'. Dial in very slow modulation (perhaps way below 1Hz, and I guess having them as prime numbers should sound best as this reduces repetitiveness), and mildly change the pitch by using just a bit of mod depth.
Maybe start with 15ips as the tape speed, and set the delay sliders in the range of 15-30 somewhere. There should be some general channel-delay offset.
Set Balance to opposite sides, and Mix to 100%.
It could be that the shorter of the two delays might have to be less in volume, because of the Haas effect. Our brain thinks that the source which arrives first is louder.
You can achieve that in Satin by using the 'delay' mode, and setting up 2 or 4 virtual 'heads'. Dial in very slow modulation (perhaps way below 1Hz, and I guess having them as prime numbers should sound best as this reduces repetitiveness), and mildly change the pitch by using just a bit of mod depth.
Maybe start with 15ips as the tape speed, and set the delay sliders in the range of 15-30 somewhere. There should be some general channel-delay offset.
Set Balance to opposite sides, and Mix to 100%.
It could be that the shorter of the two delays might have to be less in volume, because of the Haas effect. Our brain thinks that the source which arrives first is louder.
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 30 Apr, 2020
Thank you for this, and I will start to tweak accordingly now. I did try to search for this but all I could ever find were references to a Waves plugin I don't own - I fully understand the Haas effect too (and make lots of use of this in 5.1 mixes where there are limited parts to play with) but again appreciate the warning.
Many Thanks again
Many Thanks again
PC-DAW W7 Pro Nuendo 10.2 with WK Audio ID Console controller
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
Have you checked this one? It's not dependent on a specific plugin, yet quite comprehensive:
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 30 Apr, 2020
Ye Gods he waffles on and on.....and on!
Modulated delay is easy to do with my PSP 42 - perfect for that job.
I think I will stick with experiments using Satin though
Modulated delay is easy to do with my PSP 42 - perfect for that job.
I think I will stick with experiments using Satin though
PC-DAW W7 Pro Nuendo 10.2 with WK Audio ID Console controller
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
Adam Audio A7-X > RME ADI-96k ADC/DAC > RME RayDAT
UAD-2 Octo x3 fully loaded. Other plugin details on request
