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xenophobic wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:10 am Now that i have heard from the man himself explain his copy protection and not his employees i feel more comfortable buying from him. :tu: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Your name suggest otherwise.
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robotmonkey wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:17 am
xenophobic wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:10 am Now that i have heard from the man himself explain his copy protection and not his employees i feel more comfortable buying from him. :tu: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Your name suggest otherwise.
Ha Ha Ha I got the name from watching a Japanese documentary while signing up here back then i didn't think too hard on a user name or that i would frequent here so i didn't care on another note i think you robotmonkey make a lot of sense from the customer side of the argument i don't think a company should expect it's customers to fight its battles for them if they are so concerned about Kids stealing their products sue the parents for loss of revenue or get insurance like car and home owners do.

that car and house theft analogy was stupid glass can be broken and guess what all houses and cars have them my apartment even had an alarm did not stop the thieves from taking things.

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I guess Markus must take comfort from this thread. Most folks seem very understanding and the entitled whining is really a minority stance.
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revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:45 am I guess Markus must take comfort from this thread. Most folks seem very understanding and the entitled whining is really a minority stance.
In time, you will learn to make your way around internet forums without entitled whining. :wink:

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revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:45 am the entitled whining is really a minority stance.
Isn't it most of the time, is it?


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Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:49 am
revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:45 am I guess Markus must take comfort from this thread. Most folks seem very understanding and the entitled whining is really a minority stance.
In time, you will learn to make your way around internet forums without entitled whining. :wink:
I could mute folks to shut out the whining that's true, but where's the fun in that? I'll enjoy them just the way they are.
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revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:07 pm
Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:49 am
revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:45 am I guess Markus must take comfort from this thread. Most folks seem very understanding and the entitled whining is really a minority stance.
In time, you will learn to make your way around internet forums without entitled whining. :wink:
I could mute folks to shut out the whining that's true, but where's the fun in that? I'll enjoy them just the way they are.
You must think I was joking when I said that you were the one who's whining (you seem very obtuse, so I can see how that could happen).

This is a thread started buy a guy (another capable dev who makes good synths), who realized that his business approach was wrong.

I made a remark that another dev could do the same. In case you missed it, the world literally kinda stopped a bit for a couple of months, and that's the kind of situation where good people reach deep down and come to some good conclusions. I pray that you reach the level of spiritual and intellectual development where you're able to grasp something like that. :wink:

That's what I was getting at.

OTOH, your contribution to this thread was trying to appear clever, at my expense, with that little "dramatization" (or whatever you wanna call that crap you wrote), which was based on your fiction (because it sure as hell wasn't based on facts).

So yeah, I'd say your attitude is very entitled. :wink:

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I wouldn't call it a mistake. It's simply a typo.

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Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:18 pm I made a remark that another dev could do the same.
KVR should create a subforum for that.
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robotmonkey wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:25 pm
Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:18 pm I made a remark that another dev could do the same.
KVR should create a subforum for that.
Dev redemption forum
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revvy wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:26 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:25 pm
Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:18 pm I made a remark that another dev could do the same.
KVR should create a subforum for that.
Dev redemption forum
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robotmonkey wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:25 pm
Ghost Dog wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:18 pm I made a remark that another dev could do the same.
KVR should create a subforum for that.
I'd pay for hosting and domain myself.

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Tone2 Dev (KVR disallows addressing by name),

You make awesome synths and products. So much so, my husband and I have all your synths. If anyone was quick to complain in the past here about Tone2, it was me. How great you have become since then! You pamper your customers and listen to their requests. You care. So much so, you let the trolls get to you. My family has the tech knowledge to see absolutely everything your software does, and it is completely safe. Seeing the whole picture over time. You are one of the top developers in this market. From Vanguard to Icarus2. Wonderful work Tone2!

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SLH - Yes, I am a woman, deal with it.

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Yes, the way they handle things now are great, but i'd also have been pissed off if i had to deal with their old protection scheme. But i simply just wouldn't support such things like i don't support ilok.

On the other hand it's also understandable if some people felt so „betrayed“ by such things, that they will never feel too positive about some companies.
Native Instruments were once my heroes, but they've too consistently disappointed me with the change in their development priorites starting in the second half of the noughties that they'd really have a hard time getting me back on their boat, even if most of „my issues“ were straightened.
This doesn't mean that they're a bad company that noone should be happily buy from (heck, even i was pretty close to buy Dirt from them, if it had at least a scalable or resizable GUI), it's just that i'm not feeling euphoristic about them anymore.
This doesn't justify self proclaimed hatred crusades against companies or people though, unless they killed your mother or something. Just don't support them with your wallet and when asked, say you don't like (to support) them for reason x, y, or z. Just like someone else could say that they are the very bestest of them all about the same company, because he has had different experiences with them.

IMO Tone2 didn't even have to apologize in this form though, since they seemingly already did this long time ago with their actions when they changed to more consumer friendly ways.
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Markus Krause wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 3:44 pm We do not make any changes to the operating system and we do not change any files that are not our own property.
Can you define what files you consider your "own property"? If data is sitting on a system software has no business searching for, reading, modifying, or transmitting anything not directly related to its necessary operation.

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