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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue May 05, 2020 9:27 pm

Anything which belongs to the Tone2 plugins is Markus' own property. Actually, that includes warezed key files.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Tue May 05, 2020 9:56 pm

Why complicates matters?! Tone2 has a friendly protection, demos and support now. The products are very stable.
This is what matter! Keep digging the past has no meaning if things have changed now. We can learn from the past but nothing else. Let's be tolerant little bit

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue May 05, 2020 10:03 pm

I have to admit, some days I miss Vanguard a bit.

TechM3X · Post by **TechM3X** » Tue May 05, 2020 10:23 pm

Is there any plans to offer a discount to first-time buyers of Icarus based on this very forgivable mistake?

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:14 am

TechM3X wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:23 pm Is there any plans to offer a discount to first-time buyers of Icarus based on this very forgivable mistake?

It’s already on sale I think.
I actually downloaded the demo of Icarus a few days ago when (some) people were antagonizing him for this stuff again and I noticed it’s priced down. Some of his other stuff is like 50% of right now I think too.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:20 am

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 10:21 am
Anyway, this is not the place for such discussions I assume. I had a talk with a relative earlier, by the way. About the new age of "vulnerability". And, we agreed that, back in the days, we simply refrained from buying products from a company, if we had some serious issues with them or their products. Nowadays it seems like loads of people are offended if one edge of their iPhone doesn't fit them, though. It's the new age of vulnerability. We're all so hurt, by everyone and everything. Nice times to live in.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:53 am

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:04 pm Tracking cookies are actually a super useful thing for business on the net, but, hey, I won't add to such a discussion again now too. The business is evil train is already running on full steam most of the time in these forums.

Abusive business is evil. Not all business. If your business isn’t abusive, it’s not about you.

Ghost Dog · Post by **Ghost Dog** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:57 am

Jace-BeOS wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 5:20 am
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 10:21 am
Anyway, this is not the place for such discussions I assume. I had a talk with a relative earlier, by the way. About the new age of "vulnerability". And, we agreed that, back in the days, we simply refrained from buying products from a company, if we had some serious issues with them or their products. Nowadays it seems like loads of people are offended if one edge of their iPhone doesn't fit them, though. It's the new age of vulnerability. We're all so hurt, by everyone and everything. Nice times to live in.

Yeah, that smiley fits the quoted text perfectly.

Business managers have got to love people who just take whatever they're given, however it is given, without questioning (and regard their attitude as some sort of "stoicism" or whatever).

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:58 am

FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade

“Really bad shit” that’s verifiably factual is maybe an exception. The definition of “really bad shit” might need to be clear, though. There’s no need for some kind of arbitrary brotherhood of businesses. Not all businesses are evil. The ones that stand by ethical behavior should not tolerate those that do the opposite.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Wed May 06, 2020 6:31 am

Ghost Dog wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 5:57 am
Jace-BeOS wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 5:20 am
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 10:21 am
Anyway, this is not the place for such discussions I assume. I had a talk with a relative earlier, by the way. About the new age of "vulnerability". And, we agreed that, back in the days, we simply refrained from buying products from a company, if we had some serious issues with them or their products. Nowadays it seems like loads of people are offended if one edge of their iPhone doesn't fit them, though. It's the new age of vulnerability. We're all so hurt, by everyone and everything. Nice times to live in.

Yeah, that smiley fits the quoted text perfectly.

Business managers have got to love people who just take whatever they're given, however it is given, without questioning (and regard their attitude as some sort of "stoicism" or whatever).

THIS ^

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed May 06, 2020 10:13 am

Jace-BeOS wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 5:58 am
FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
“Really bad shit” that’s verifiably factual is maybe an exception. The definition of “really bad shit” might need to be clear, though. There’s no need for some kind of arbitrary brotherhood of businesses. Not all businesses are evil. The ones that stand by ethical behavior should not tolerate those that do the opposite.

Hehehe, continue the slippery slope, get closer to the truth: Our shit is really bad ass

Also: People raising doubts about developers using GA? - Fine. Doing so on a forum that uses the whole package of Google's tracking and ad services?

VELLTONE MUSIC · Post by **VELLTONE MUSIC** » Wed May 06, 2020 10:31 am

Man do Firebird III wavetable, 64bit and new fx section, something from newest synths and release it for 29-49 euro range,then all your sins will be forgiven forever

:):)

Bastiaan from Tone2.com · Wed May 06, 2020 10:38 am

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Wed May 06, 2020 11:15 am

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Wed May 06, 2020 11:16 am

VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:31 am Man do Firebird III wavetable, 64bit and new fx section, something from newest synths and release it for 29-49 euro range

Trying to turn me on?

I apologize for my mistakes made in the past