Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[LoveEnigma18]

Sample Magic - 70% off everything

https://www.samplemagic.com/


We're closing down our website soon, as we are now amalgamating further into the Splice
family.

To thank you all we've got 70% off everything on our site until the end of May! Don't miss out.

That's a big news and sale, though not that surprising about Splice amalgamation. Been a big fan of Sample Magic stuff. One of the best sample makers. Thanks for posting!

[JerGoertz]

i wouldnt buy SKnote Plugins again, but thats not Christians fault, or a lack of plugin quality. Its simply near impossible to get Quinto to react to complete a transfer. (I know we live in special times with the pandemic right now but SKnote/Quinto is indeed active on FB and Gearslutz)

Probably nothing/not-much to do with the pandemic. I had a similar experience trying to twist Quinto's arm to do a license transfer several years back.

[Ou_Tis]

Wonder how spitfire people are going to send me that library since they never asked my email..

I filled that survey. I'm a bit ashamed about the last question I answered.. "What does bbc mean to you"

They won't email, they just add it to your account which you should have been logged into when you filled in the survey

The BBC question, I answered truthfully - TV License, that's what it means to me

I think of the the News before anything else... but them asking it meant they are well aware of the other meaning too and now I'm hoping they can share the results of this survey.

Lol I had no idea. Assumed the title came from the BBC broadcasting/financing classical music.

[Insanelysane]

Plug and Mix's Chainer is a really useful tool and is currently on sale for $19 at JRRShop. Its not perfect (biggest gripe is the frustrating preset management as it doesnt recognise if you create folders, also scrolling presets is a pain once you have quite a few) but its super useful for quick easy standalone loading of a chain of say vst instrument with all sorts of custom fx from your favourite 3rd party vst effects, all in a mixer view and ability to have everything lined up how you want it. I can quickly load different amp sims side by side for comparisons, additions etc. Highly recommend, dont be put off by the Plug n Mix brand, its a useful tool.
https://www.jrrshop.com/plug-mix?dir=de ... _from_date

PS, if you do buy it, it installs the Plug and Mix effects bundle too, just delete that folder after install if you dont want the extra 500mb bloat.

[MogwaiBoy]

Can't you just save your mixer channel (including its insert FX plugins) as a preset in your DAW? I do this all the time.

[sprnva]

Ozone 9 Elements is free at Splice until June 5th

https://splice.com/plugins/38774457-ozo ... by-izotope

[Insanelysane]

Can't you just save your mixer channel (including its insert FX plugins) as a preset in your DAW? I do this all the time.

You certainly can, nothing wrong with that approach.

Except there are some fundamental differences too - I use multiple DAWS so Chainer saves my presets in its program and I load Chainer as vst effect in whichever DAW I'm in at the time and bang all my effects chains are there, so it works across different systems.

Also, in Cubase at least, its a pain loading up both Cubase start up every time - 3 min wait for startup, load empty track or template, change buffer if there is a delay... sometimes I want a quick fix load, right from my desktop. Chainer is really perfect for that. In Chainer I can also mix each vst effect so I can individually pan and volume ride any of the effects in the chain, cant do this in DAW.

Also, Cubase mixer channel presets is a pain to load, there's currently quick shortcuts, I have to load the mixer channel settings tab and wait for Cubase to recalculate presets, it sometimes doesnt show my user presets so I have to manually type them in the search function and whats worse is I cant see them so at times I dont necessarily remember what the preset I wanted is called and whether I had other options.

Thats just a few of the obvious advantages to Chainer, like I said its not perfect, but currently I havent found anything better (Blue Cat and some others had their own issues with their similar products so I still think Chainer is best for quick and easy, and at $20 its worth it).

[Psuper]

I work with templates mainly, and have a question about Chainer.

Say I want to setup a vocoder in Chainer. Currently in Cubase, I create an audio track to feed into the vocoder, instrument track (Reason Rack vocoder) and a midi track output to the vocoder.

Can I set all this up in Chainer instead?

[Ploki]

edit: nevermind

[MogwaiBoy]

Can't you just save your mixer channel (including its insert FX plugins) as a preset in your DAW? I do this all the time.

You certainly can, nothing wrong with that approach.

Except there are some fundamental differences too - I use multiple DAWS so Chainer saves my presets in its program and I load Chainer as vst effect in whichever DAW I'm in at the time and bang all my effects chains are there, so it works across different systems.

Also, in Cubase at least, its a pain loading up both Cubase start up every time - 3 min wait for startup, load empty track or template, change buffer if there is a delay... sometimes I want a quick fix load, right from my desktop. Chainer is really perfect for that. In Chainer I can also mix each vst effect so I can individually pan and volume ride any of the effects in the chain, cant do this in DAW.

Also, Cubase mixer channel presets is a pain to load, there's currently quick shortcuts, I have to load the mixer channel settings tab and wait for Cubase to recalculate presets, it sometimes doesnt show my user presets so I have to manually type them in the search function and whats worse is I cant see them so at times I dont necessarily remember what the preset I wanted is called and whether I had other options.

Thats just a few of the obvious advantages to Chainer, like I said its not perfect, but currently I havent found anything better (Blue Cat and some others had their own issues with their similar products so I still think Chainer is best for quick and easy, and at $20 its worth it).

Ahhh, thanks for your response. I totally understand how that might be really useful when using different DAWs.

Questions... Does it load literally every VST plugin inside it or are there some known incompatible plugins? Does it add much of it's own CPU footprint? Can you have a mix of VST2 and VST3? Does it have extras like global oversampling? (That would be really awesome).

I can mix wet/dry on individual inserts in FL Studio too but you get phasing on plugins with latency (the wet is slightly delayed from the dry, causing comb filter cancellations) - how does Chainer deal with this?

For years I just thought Chainer was like a Kilohearts thing that only chained Plug & Mix plugins - so it's interesting to know it's more than that.

[Insanelysane]

Can't you just save your mixer channel (including its insert FX plugins) as a preset in your DAW? I do this all the time.

You certainly can, nothing wrong with that approach.

Except there are some fundamental differences too - I use multiple DAWS so Chainer saves my presets in its program and I load Chainer as vst effect in whichever DAW I'm in at the time and bang all my effects chains are there, so it works across different systems.

Also, in Cubase at least, its a pain loading up both Cubase start up every time - 3 min wait for startup, load empty track or template, change buffer if there is a delay... sometimes I want a quick fix load, right from my desktop. Chainer is really perfect for that. In Chainer I can also mix each vst effect so I can individually pan and volume ride any of the effects in the chain, cant do this in DAW.

Also, Cubase mixer channel presets is a pain to load, there's currently quick shortcuts, I have to load the mixer channel settings tab and wait for Cubase to recalculate presets, it sometimes doesnt show my user presets so I have to manually type them in the search function and whats worse is I cant see them so at times I dont necessarily remember what the preset I wanted is called and whether I had other options.

Thats just a few of the obvious advantages to Chainer, like I said its not perfect, but currently I havent found anything better (Blue Cat and some others had their own issues with their similar products so I still think Chainer is best for quick and easy, and at $20 its worth it).

Ahhh, thanks for your response. I totally understand how that might be really useful when using different DAWs.

Questions... Does it load literally every VST plugin inside it or are there some known incompatible plugins? Does it add much of it's own CPU footprint? Can you have a mix of VST2 and VST3? Does it have extras like global oversampling? (That would be really awesome).

I can mix wet/dry on individual inserts in FL Studio too but you get phasing on plugins with latency (the wet is slightly delayed from the dry, causing comb filter cancellations) - how does Chainer deal with this?

For years I just thought Chainer was like a Kilohearts thing that only chained Plug & Mix plugins - so it's interesting to know it's more than that.

Haha great, well I hope this is helpful to everyone else as well, I think Chainer is very useful and being in the bargains thread Id say its a great price at under $20.

Biggest issue Ive had with Chainer is it *can* crash in standalone when Im moving from one preset to another. Feels like its an unloading and then reloading issue. Its an occasional crash, not the norm, thankfully, but it has been noted and you might want to consider that in taking it on as a tool.

To answer the questions:
"Does it load literally every VST plugin inside it or are there some known incompatible plugins?" Yes! Its been of great value for this reason. To my knowledge not a single incompatibility. Ive used many effects and brands with it, it feels solid on this front for sure.

"Does it add much of it's own CPU footprint?"
No. Definitely would say its small to negligible. As an insert in Cubase, Studio One and FL Studio its been a breeze. Standalone is its real calling card though. Btw it has its own latency monitor per plugin loaded built in, so Ive found out about which plugins are adding latency to my chain (at least latency in that program). Very useful to see, its shown under each 'insert' loaded.

"Can you have a mix of VST2 and VST3?" Yes!

"Does it have extras like global oversampling? (That would be really awesome)." No, I dont think. You can google that one to be sure. I found that it doesnt have much tweaking in general under the hood, nothing exciting or too helpful re customising layouts. Like I said its not perfect, it just does some things well and thats more than enough at this point.

[Insanelysane]

I work with templates mainly, and have a question about Chainer.

Say I want to setup a vocoder in Chainer. Currently in Cubase, I create an audio track to feed into the vocoder, instrument track (Reason Rack vocoder) and a midi track output to the vocoder.

Can I set all this up in Chainer instead?

Templates is definitely the way to go

The short answer is NO, since there is no midi in Chainer.

I dont know how well the Vocoder setup would work, here are the basics you can be sure of:

1. Assign global inputs (global being key word here for this issue)
2. Load up combination of vst and vst instruments (so vocoder as insert)
3. Mix volume and pan per insert.
4. Play

If you're in your DAW I'm not sure I know how the routing would work with midi to and fro Chainer, it is a vst insert effect itself though so work off of that.

[Vleker]

I work with templates mainly, and have a question about Chainer.

Say I want to setup a vocoder in Chainer. Currently in Cubase, I create an audio track to feed into the vocoder, instrument track (Reason Rack vocoder) and a midi track output to the vocoder.

Can I set all this up in Chainer instead?

In Cubase you can save multitrack presets. So the midi track + an audio track with a vocoder loaded on it!

[Insanelysane]

I work with templates mainly, and have a question about Chainer.

Say I want to setup a vocoder in Chainer. Currently in Cubase, I create an audio track to feed into the vocoder, instrument track (Reason Rack vocoder) and a midi track output to the vocoder.

Can I set all this up in Chainer instead?

In Cubase you can save multitrack presets. So the midi track + an audio track with a vocoder loaded on it!

Boom! Nice one

[Kalamata Kid]

Plugin Alliance doing a 48h flash sale for Unfiltered Audio LION
Use the coupon code LION-4999 to get it for just $49.99
Offer ends May 13, 11:59 PM California Time

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... _lion.html

The voucher code MTFBWY25 is still working and can be stacked with the above voucher, bringing it down to $24.99 in cart.

^^^
Thanks, it worked!
Bought mostly on the way it sounds and the BYOME randomizer.
and the MPE.