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mpe discussions, as exciting as they are, are not this...

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id forgotten how much roth looks like buffalo bill from the penis tuck scene in silence of the lambs.
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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:29 pm
starflakeprj wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:57 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:16 pm
Noumena wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:02 am
In the first 10 seconds of this videos, he's already done things that you can't do in a split keyboard non-MPE setup on a "5D" controller. Examples like these are all over youtube. Again - Willful ignorance.
I have never really understood the greatness in MPE, but it could be because I don't really understand how I could gain from it.

In this linked above, can you still accomplish the same sound "manually" in your DAW? What I'm asking specifically is, if MPE is mostly for playing live? In that case it's not for me :)
Yes you could accomplish the same thing technically in a DAW, however it would be extremely cumbersome. You would need to create a duplicate instrument track for each voice that is played simultaneously so that you can do pitch bend or other expressions (like mod wheel or other midi cc) for only that specific note at a time. For example in the first few seconds you can see that he does vibrato on one note while holding other notes that do not to vibrato. It would sound much different and less pleasing if vibrato were applied to all notes there. So yes you could set it up in a DAW that way but then of course you would need to play or write each note separately. Imagine recording guitar parts where you could only record one string at a time as opposed to playing chords...
I shortened your text, just wanted to say thanks. Very well explained! I think that I might have a look at a keyboard with maybe 2 octaves or something, I will never (probably) be able to play, two-handedly, in that regard, but it certainly seems fun to play with. And if I can edit expressions note for note, afterwards, of what I play with one hand, it seems like a nice investment.
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starflakeprj wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:26 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:29 pm
starflakeprj wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:57 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:16 pm
Noumena wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:02 am
In the first 10 seconds of this videos, he's already done things that you can't do in a split keyboard non-MPE setup on a "5D" controller. Examples like these are all over youtube. Again - Willful ignorance.
I have never really understood the greatness in MPE, but it could be because I don't really understand how I could gain from it.

In this linked above, can you still accomplish the same sound "manually" in your DAW? What I'm asking specifically is, if MPE is mostly for playing live? In that case it's not for me :)
Yes you could accomplish the same thing technically in a DAW, however it would be extremely cumbersome. You would need to create a duplicate instrument track for each voice that is played simultaneously so that you can do pitch bend or other expressions (like mod wheel or other midi cc) for only that specific note at a time. For example in the first few seconds you can see that he does vibrato on one note while holding other notes that do not to vibrato. It would sound much different and less pleasing if vibrato were applied to all notes there. So yes you could set it up in a DAW that way but then of course you would need to play or write each note separately. Imagine recording guitar parts where you could only record one string at a time as opposed to playing chords...
I shortened your text, just wanted to say thanks. Very well explained! I think that I might have a look at a keyboard with maybe 2 octaves or something, I will never (probably) be able to play, two-handedly, in that regard, but it certainly seems fun to play with. And if I can edit expressions note for note, afterwards, of what I play with one hand, it seems like a nice investment.
No problem. And you don't really need to be a good player to make use of it. You could play just two fingers, doing independent bending and expressions with each, and be able to move those two fingers anywhere on the keyboard, so already that's stuff you couldn't do with a keyboard split.

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I generally map amplitude to pressure. This enables me to control the attack, release and volume of each note in a chord independently as I play it. More of a stringed instrument effect than a percussive attack... you can improvise string quartets with crescendo, decreshendo, vibrato, etc. once you start using it with polyphonic material you can’t believe the depth you can get out of even a simple 1 osc no frills sound.

I am very excited to see what this synth can do with MPE expressivity. There are very few good implementations and this looks promising.
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go ahead and...
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Noumena wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:41 pm I generally map amplitude to pressure. This enables me to control the attack, release and volume of each note in a chord independently as I play it. More of a stringed instrument effect than a percussive attack... you can improvise string quartets with crescendo, decreshendo, vibrato, etc. once you start using it with polyphonic material you can’t believe the depth you can get out of even a simple 1 osc no frills sound.
According to BONES this is not of any use. :lol:

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vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm id forgotten how much roth looks like buffalo bill from the penis tuck scene in silence of the lambs.
I believe you got that backwards. :wink:

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vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm buffalo penis
What on Earth is happening in this thread? :o
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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:50 pm
vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm id forgotten how much roth looks like buffalo bill from the penis tuck scene in silence of the lambs.
I believe you got that backwards. :wink:
well yes, depending how youre travelling through the tempus.

but, i meant i hadnt seen him for longer, silence of the lambs on the other hand is a romantic night in for me n the missus :)
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recursive one wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:52 pm
vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm buffalo penis
What on Earth is happening in this thread? :o
snacks?
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recursive one wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:52 pm
vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm buffalo penis
What on Earth is happening in this thread? :o
sorry, dont think its an ob, but it is david lee roth...

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Regarding the BP filter: since there is not only a cutoff frequency, but also an open-up frequency so to speak, should there not be two knobs for setting the frequency range to pass? And eventually also two resonance knobs for stressing those two frequencies? 8)

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recursive one wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:52 pm
vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm buffalo penis
What on Earth is happening in this thread? :o
It has now become the 'post any old shite' thread.

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Vortifex wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:25 pm
recursive one wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:52 pm
vurt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:52 pm buffalo penis
What on Earth is happening in this thread? :o
It has now become the 'post any old shite' thread.
not really, it was relevant.
it didnt just come from nowhere.

jump/roth/buffalo bill.
i dont know what to say if you dont see it? :shrug:
sorry if a fake murderer tucking his junk offended :hug:
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