Q: Move edit into a new project
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
Hello,
please, it's possible to move an edit into a new blank project and rename it? I'm pretty sure it is, but I couldn't find the solution anywhere.
please, it's possible to move an edit into a new blank project and rename it? I'm pretty sure it is, but I couldn't find the solution anywhere.
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRist
- 236 posts since 9 Feb, 2017
is this what you are looking for?
you can create edit clips by opening a new project and your existing project. now drag and drop the column/tile (name) of the old project into your new project. this will create an edit clip in your new project. w11 renders your old project within the edit clip.
you can create edit clips by opening a new project and your existing project. now drag and drop the column/tile (name) of the old project into your new project. this will create an edit clip in your new project. w11 renders your old project within the edit clip.
- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
Create an archive of the edit and import the archive into a blank project.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
Please, I don't understand. Where can I grab and drag column/title of the old project? In the projects tab? I can't move files in there.astey wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pm is this what you are looking for?
you can create edit clips by opening a new project and your existing project. now drag and drop the column/tile (name) of the old project into your new project. this will create an edit clip in your new project. w11 renders your old project within the edit clip.
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRist
- 236 posts since 9 Feb, 2017
This video shows how to work with edit clips and how you can nest projects. I hope this helps:UnionS8 wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 amPlease, I don't understand. Where can I grab and drag column/title of the old project? In the projects tab? I can't move files in there.astey wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pm is this what you are looking for?
you can create edit clips by opening a new project and your existing project. now drag and drop the column/tile (name) of the old project into your new project. this will create an edit clip in your new project. w11 renders your old project within the edit clip.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
This is indeed a neat feature. But it's not what I'm looking for.
1. It allows to insert the edit only within one project. I wanted to create a new project based on a specific edit of another project.
2. Even though it would work... It's quite unpleasant to have a part of a song bounced into one audio track and have to open it every time I want to make changes.
So put things short. It's not possible to create a new project using an edit from another one easily. It's quite sad. I tend to work this way usually. I have tons of ideas waiting for further work. It would mean I would have to create a project every time an idea comes across. :-/
1. It allows to insert the edit only within one project. I wanted to create a new project based on a specific edit of another project.
2. Even though it would work... It's quite unpleasant to have a part of a song bounced into one audio track and have to open it every time I want to make changes.
So put things short. It's not possible to create a new project using an edit from another one easily. It's quite sad. I tend to work this way usually. I have tons of ideas waiting for further work. It would mean I would have to create a project every time an idea comes across. :-/
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRist
- 236 posts since 9 Feb, 2017
Like saving as new edit and then continue to work on it?UnionS8 wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:06 pm This is indeed a neat feature. But it's not what I'm looking for.
1. It allows to insert the edit only within one project. I wanted to create a new project based on a specific edit of another project.
2. Even though it would work... It's quite unpleasant to have a part of a song bounced into one audio track and have to open it every time I want to make changes.
So put things short. It's not possible to create a new project using an edit from another one easily. It's quite sad. I tend to work this way usually. I have tons of ideas waiting for further work. It would mean I would have to create a project every time an idea comes across. :-/
Or duplicating the project folder and save the new project under a different name?
Or Stuttaton‘s suggestion?
Save tracks as preset and reopen them in a different project?
Save multiple edits of your existing project and delete things you want to separate. Then use edit clips to import these smaller projects?
Other people might know more
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 16 Mar, 2017
Sadly, what Stuttaton suggested above doesn't seem to work. I agree that it should, but it doesn't, at least not for me, in W11 Pro on a Mac.
It restores the edit file to the folder of the new project but it doesn't show up in the list of edits that can be opened from within the project.
At least, that is what I am seeing.
What does work for me:
1. Select an edit within the project on the Projects tab.
2. Below the list of edits click Backup Edit and Project.
3. Give the backup a name and click OK
4. Select the backup in the list of backups (right-hand list on the Projects tab)
5. Click Restore Project underneath that list
6. Select a folder in which to create a copy of the project and click Open (shouldn't this be Restore?... whatever)
** This creates a restored copy of the entire project from the backup and adds it to the list of projects.
7. Rename the newly created project as desired (select it in the list of projects and change the name in the box underneath the list of edits).
8. Select and delete any edits from the new project that you do not want to keep.
It restores the edit file to the folder of the new project but it doesn't show up in the list of edits that can be opened from within the project.
At least, that is what I am seeing.
What does work for me:
1. Select an edit within the project on the Projects tab.
2. Below the list of edits click Backup Edit and Project.
3. Give the backup a name and click OK
4. Select the backup in the list of backups (right-hand list on the Projects tab)
5. Click Restore Project underneath that list
6. Select a folder in which to create a copy of the project and click Open (shouldn't this be Restore?... whatever)
** This creates a restored copy of the entire project from the backup and adds it to the list of projects.
7. Rename the newly created project as desired (select it in the list of projects and change the name in the box underneath the list of edits).
8. Select and delete any edits from the new project that you do not want to keep.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
Thank you for the detailed answer. I believe, this is the way Stuttaton suggested earlies. I just didn't want to believe, I had to perform so many steps to achieve this (usually) simple task. 
I know from the past, the astey's way doesn't work for me either. Althoug I rename and move edits to the new location, they still appear in the original project.
I know from the past, the astey's way doesn't work for me either. Althoug I rename and move edits to the new location, they still appear in the original project.
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 16 Mar, 2017
I'm not sure what it is "usual" for as the only other DAW I am aware of that has a similar concept of edits within a project is the Fairlight DAW built into Resolve, which builds on the timelines within a Resolve project...UnionS8 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:19 am I had to perform so many steps to achieve this (usually) simple task.![]()
I suspect this may be a bug. The project name is probably stored internally within the file containing the edit and the process that restores from an archive may not be handling that appropriately?UnionS8 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:19 am Althoug I rename and move edits to the new location, they still appear in the original project.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
This is exactly what I thought. It must be stored internally in the edit file.fde101 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:30 am I suspect this may be a bug. The project name is probably stored internally within the file containing the edit and the process that restores from an archive may not be handling that appropriately?
An usual way is, the way how simply operating system works. You put a file into a folder. It stays put, stays there, a path to it is the same as it appears in the dialog window of the app and when you want to open it, it opens just like that
I completely understand the story behind the Waveform handles edits. But there should by single and simple button (for example), which moves an edit into a new project.
If any developer made it here, please, consider including this feature into some future updates
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
If you are moving edits by archiving and un-archiving, it's not a bug for the original copy of the edit to remain in its original project. Archiving is about more than just moving an edit. You might be making periodical backups. You might be copying an edit to new music computer. You might be sharing it with a friend to add some tracks.
If archiving an edit deleted the edit from the original project, that would be a bug.
Moving an edit is more complicated than just moving a single file. It might have a number of related audio and MIDI clips that it needs, as well as external audio clips that are included but from another part of your hard drive. Some of those files might also be included in another edit within the project, so you don't want to move them - you want to copy them.
I move edits frequently as I have projects just for testing and some of those tests turn into songs. Here's what I do:
1. Rename the edit to what you want to be.
2. Archive edit. Pay attention to where it's saved as Waveform annoyingly remembers the last save folder from whatever you did last and that might be the subfolder of a different project. You should also remove unnecessary bits like the trailing " Archive 1" it likes to add. The name you give it will be the name of the folder it creates later on.
3. Choose your project folder of choice and "Load a project or archive..." to create a new project just for that edit. You'll want to choose its parent folder carefully. It will make its own project folder with the name of the edit archive filename.
If you need to import an edit into an already-existing project, I haven't tried it but it looks like it's possible using "Import Material".
If archiving an edit deleted the edit from the original project, that would be a bug.
Moving an edit is more complicated than just moving a single file. It might have a number of related audio and MIDI clips that it needs, as well as external audio clips that are included but from another part of your hard drive. Some of those files might also be included in another edit within the project, so you don't want to move them - you want to copy them.
I move edits frequently as I have projects just for testing and some of those tests turn into songs. Here's what I do:
1. Rename the edit to what you want to be.
2. Archive edit. Pay attention to where it's saved as Waveform annoyingly remembers the last save folder from whatever you did last and that might be the subfolder of a different project. You should also remove unnecessary bits like the trailing " Archive 1" it likes to add. The name you give it will be the name of the folder it creates later on.
3. Choose your project folder of choice and "Load a project or archive..." to create a new project just for that edit. You'll want to choose its parent folder carefully. It will make its own project folder with the name of the edit archive filename.
If you need to import an edit into an already-existing project, I haven't tried it but it looks like it's possible using "Import Material".
Surely there must be consensus by now...
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
I'm not getting this problem, on W11 pro on a mac.fde101 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:14 am Sadly, what Stuttaton suggested above doesn't seem to work. I agree that it should, but it doesn't, at least not for me, in W11 Pro on a Mac.
It restores the edit file to the folder of the new project but it doesn't show up in the list of edits that can be opened from within the project.
At least, that is what I am seeing.
I go to one project, highlight an edit, hit "Archive Edit" and save it to desktop
Open a new project, go to "Import Material" then "Unpack an archive and add it to this project", choose the archive on the desktop.
Edit shows up in the list, and I can open it in the new project.
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