Steinberg Backbone - Drum Re-synthesizer
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
If it can, I haven't figured that out yet... It is meant to play one sound per instance.. So I would have counted a open/closed hihat as at least two sounds.
Think of it this way, you want to create your ultimate Kick sound.. one instance.
You want to create your ultimate snare sound..... another instance.
etc.
It isn't designed for one instance to play more than one type of sound, like you couldn't use this for a drum kit, well not one instance anyway.
rsp
Think of it this way, you want to create your ultimate Kick sound.. one instance.
You want to create your ultimate snare sound..... another instance.
etc.
It isn't designed for one instance to play more than one type of sound, like you couldn't use this for a drum kit, well not one instance anyway.
rsp
sound sculptist
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- KVRist
- 192 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
I'm pretty sure you can't set key ranges per layer. This isn't really built for that kind of sampling, so if you want to do in-depth sampling with keyranges and velocity ranges, Backbone might not do what you want. For something like closed vs open hats, though, you could maybe do it with velocity (envelope lengths can be velocity-controlled, as can sample length in the resynth engine) or use two separate instances, which is effectively the same as two different keyranges.
Having said that -- since you'll usually be running multiple instances of Backbone anyhow, if you really want to layer by keyrange you can use an instance for each desired keyrange (in the options you can set a keyrange that Backbone will respond to).
Having said that -- since you'll usually be running multiple instances of Backbone anyhow, if you really want to layer by keyrange you can use an instance for each desired keyrange (in the options you can set a keyrange that Backbone will respond to).
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- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
And you can't limit the layers to respond to certain velocity ranges only? That would be too bad, you might only want some at higher velocities. Or at least you can set the amp to velocity sensitive I'm sure right? Can you inverse that so that some layers are heard more at lower velocities?
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- KVRist
- 192 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
Correct, you can't set velocity ranges for different layers. Amplitude (& some other useful parameters, such as sample start position) does have velocity sensitivity, and you can invert the sensitivity; so as you mention, you can control layer volumes that way.
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- KVRAF
- 2583 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
I can't see any real reason this could not be used for tuning/mangling drum loops - anyone got any experience of this? The fact that they don't do this in the videos makes me wonder if there is some flaw in it
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- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Sure, you can tempo sync loops fine with the spectral oscillator in sync mode, unfortunately envelope curves can't be looped.
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- KVRAF
- 2583 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
Can you draw complex envelopes or are they ASDR?Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:39 amSure, you can tempo sync loops fine with the spectral oscillator in sync mode, unfortunately envelope curves can't be looped.
PS thanks for answering my questions - it just isn't the Steinberg way to produce a demo!
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- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Yes, the envelopes are multi point MSEGs actually, you can draw any shape and as many steps as you want, tempo synced or not.ericj23 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:41 amCan you draw complex envelopes or are they ASDR?Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:39 amSure, you can tempo sync loops fine with the spectral oscillator in sync mode, unfortunately envelope curves can't be looped.
PS thanks for answering my questions - it just isn't the Steinberg way to produce a demo!
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- KVRAF
- 2583 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
That makes it sound much more tempting, for using loops at least.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 amYes, the envelopes are multi point MSEGs actually, you can draw any shape and as many steps as you want, tempo synced or not.ericj23 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:41 amCan you draw complex envelopes or are they ASDR?Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:39 amSure, you can tempo sync loops fine with the spectral oscillator in sync mode, unfortunately envelope curves can't be looped.
PS thanks for answering my questions - it just isn't the Steinberg way to produce a demo!
Thanks again
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- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
Will definitely give this one a look.
Take care
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
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- KVRist
- 441 posts since 12 Oct, 2003