Early amp simulators comparison video

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Monsum
KVRist
64 posts since 19 Jun, 2013

Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:00 pm

For fun, I compared some of the very first attempts to simulate guitar amps in software.
Five guitar plugins which are around 20 years old now.
Do you think that any of them still rock? :)

https://youtu.be/GIxxlO8xfFA

guitarzan
KVRian
1214 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Outer Bongolia

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:27 pm

Monsum wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:00 pm
Do you think that any of them still rock? :)
Hell yeah — H&K Warp had something going on in their speaker cab modeling that is still unsurpassed — like genuine cab thunk. Very good feel, fun to play.

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pough
KVRAF
3008 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:57 pm

I miss the Roland JC120 amp sim in WarpVST...
I'm not your dog, so watch your language!

guitarzan
KVRian
1214 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Outer Bongolia

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:04 pm

Those early Hughes & Kettner zenTera modeling amps still go for big bucks — still way ahead of their time.

acousticglue
KVRian
936 posts since 27 May, 2008

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:40 pm

Nothing that newer software coupled with it can't fix

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Audiority
KVRian
927 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:09 am

tanh() FTW :D

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consordini
KVRist
310 posts since 6 May, 2020

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:44 am

I just have a sweet spot for the mda Combo for some reason.
Take care :wink:

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Turello
KVRAF
3267 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:33 pm

Warp still remains a little monster...

Monsum
KVRist
64 posts since 19 Jun, 2013

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:19 pm

Agreed, Warp Vst is excellent even today.
For all the other plugins in the comparison I really struggled to get something I'd be pleased with.
But with the Warp it was the other way round - I couldn't decide on the settings because I liked it in many different configurations.
It might not be the most realistic amp sim as per today but definitely makes you want to play your guitar through it.

guitarzan
KVRian
1214 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Outer Bongolia

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:09 am

All those other sims would still stack up fairly well if run through either a better cab model or speaker IR.

I'd say speaker cab modeling has actually regressed since WarpVST, while speaker IR use has become far more widespread (it was actually available then, just not very widely used until about 15 years ago or so).

Need a hybrid — good IRs can really capture the sound of a cab, but they don't have the dynamics that good cab modeling (like in WarpVST) can provide.

fese
KVRian
1231 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:49 am

Monsum wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:00 pm
For fun, I compared some of the very first attempts to simulate guitar amps in software.
Five guitar plugins which are around 20 years old now.
Do you think that any of them still rock? :)

https://youtu.be/GIxxlO8xfFA
Hey, what version of cubase is this? I had something similar looking in the 90s for a short time, but it only had very generic “rack”-like GUIs for plugins, horrible usability. My first tentative steps into digital recording after a Portastudio, I didn’t know shit about anything and I didn’t continue until SX3 (?).

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jamcat
KVRist
254 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:39 am

They all still sound better than Guitar Rig.

Monsum
KVRist
64 posts since 19 Jun, 2013

Re: Early amp simulators comparison video

Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:44 am

fese wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:49 am
Hey, what version of cubase is this? I had something similar looking in the 90s for a short time, but it only had very generic “rack”-like GUIs for plugins, horrible usability. My first tentative steps into digital recording after a Portastudio, I didn’t know shit about anything and I didn’t continue until SX3 (?).
It's a little brother of Cubase - Cubasis VST 5 (long before they started calling the mobile app this name).
This version is not that old, I believe it's from 2003.
All plugins that didn't have their own GUI received a generic one.
I liked Cubasis because it wasn't overloaded with unnecessary features and it was much cheaper.

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