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Released: Free Synthesizer Odin 2 [Win / Mac / Linux]
- KVRian
- 951 posts since 30 Oct, 2013 from Scarborough
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- Banned
- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Spent this whole evening with Odin. Only "issue" I found, was that I ran out of polyphony quite quickly when making pads with unison. Cpu usage can also get quite quickly out of hands
But omg what a synth.. Easily one of the best freebies in a while
But omg what a synth.. Easily one of the best freebies in a while
- KVRian
- 1209 posts since 28 Jun, 2005
Question,
After opening the plug-in on Windows10 it creates a folder in the root of my documents called: .config (dot config).
Wouldn't it be nice if the folder was inside a Odin2 folder or even a "The wave Warden/Odin 2/" folder (inside my documents).
It's also a good place for the presets "The wave Warden/Odin 2/Presets".
Love the look and the sound so far.
After opening the plug-in on Windows10 it creates a folder in the root of my documents called: .config (dot config).
Wouldn't it be nice if the folder was inside a Odin2 folder or even a "The wave Warden/Odin 2/" folder (inside my documents).
It's also a good place for the presets "The wave Warden/Odin 2/Presets".
Love the look and the sound so far.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Is there a way to skin it? An alternative skin might be an interesting thing. Some skin work of mine here: https://stefken.wixsite.com/skins.
I might be in for sorting the patches but I guess it's best that e.g. a couple of people take 150 patches each so the work is distributed.
I might be in for sorting the patches but I guess it's best that e.g. a couple of people take 150 patches each so the work is distributed.
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- KVRian
- 595 posts since 14 Apr, 2019
Not a big deal and probably just stupidity on my part but when I try to install the latest version (2.1.0). My computer asks if I want to replace the dll file, I say yes. And... I still can't open up some presets as I get a message saying I'm still using version 2.0.19. If I delete the old dll and download the new, it still tells me I can't because I'm using 2.0.19 when trying certain presets. Using Reaper 6.08 on the brand new Windows.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 281 posts since 10 Apr, 2020
Great! I'll contact you when the update is ready!
Yeager wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:51 pm Question,
After opening the plug-in on Windows10 it creates a folder in the root of my documents called: .config (dot config).
Wouldn't it be nice if the folder was inside a Odin2 folder or even a "The wave Warden/Odin 2/" folder (inside my documents).
It's also a good place for the presets "The wave Warden/Odin 2/Presets".
Love the look and the sound so far.
Yes! The dot makes the folder hidden on linux. Not a very nice name on Windows though
The patchbrowser update will, however, change the location of the config file (and installed Soundbanks) to a more convenient location.
Skinning is currently not possible, sorry. It would need a considerable amount of work to get it running. However, a lot of people have asked already, so this might be interesting for a future update.Stefken wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:42 pm Is there a way to skin it? An alternative skin might be an interesting thing. Some skin work of mine here: <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://stefken.wixsite.com/skins</span>.
I might be in for sorting the patches but I guess it's best that e.g. a couple of people take 150 patches each so the work is distributed.
Hmmm, are you 100% sure it isn't 2.0.19? You can tell by clicking on the question-mark button in the top right corner of the GUI. It will tell you the version you're using.empphryio wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:52 pm Not a big deal and probably just stupidity on my part but when I try to install the latest version (2.1.0). My computer asks if I want to replace the dll file, I say yes. And... I still can't open up some presets as I get a message saying I'm still using version 2.0.19. If I delete the old dll and download the new, it still tells me I can't because I'm using 2.0.19 when trying certain presets. Using Reaper 6.08 on the brand new Windows.
Maybe the 2.0.19 is lurking somewhere on your harddrive still in a different folder?
If you are on 2.1.0 however and the issue persists, then please report back!
- KVRAF
- 4277 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
I tested in in Tracktion's plugin validator and it crashes. Odin 2.1.0 doesn't seem to like having its state read or something like that.
https://www.tracktion.com/develop/pluginval
Starting test: pluginval / Plugin state...
*** FAILED: VALIDATION CRASHED
4: UnhandledExceptionFilter + 0x1ea
5: memset + 0x1b32
6: _C_specific_handler + 0x96
7: _chkstk + 0x11f
8: RtlRaiseException + 0x399
9: KiUserExceptionDispatcher + 0x2e
10: GetPluginFactory + 0x1a9f0c
11: GetPluginFactory + 0x1ab549
12: GetPluginFactory + 0x16f9d7
27: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
28: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
https://www.tracktion.com/develop/pluginval
Starting test: pluginval / Plugin state...
*** FAILED: VALIDATION CRASHED
4: UnhandledExceptionFilter + 0x1ea
5: memset + 0x1b32
6: _C_specific_handler + 0x96
7: _chkstk + 0x11f
8: RtlRaiseException + 0x399
9: KiUserExceptionDispatcher + 0x2e
10: GetPluginFactory + 0x1a9f0c
11: GetPluginFactory + 0x1ab549
12: GetPluginFactory + 0x16f9d7
27: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
28: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware
- KVRian
- 1209 posts since 28 Jun, 2005
TheWaveWarden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:57 am The patchbrowser update will, however, change the location of the config file (and installed Soundbanks) to a more convenient location.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 281 posts since 10 Apr, 2020
Yes, I'm aware of this. It has been on my todo list for way too long, but since no "real-world problems" have arisen yet, I didn't investigate until now.
Anyways, thanks for notifying me
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 281 posts since 10 Apr, 2020
Actually, your post made me look into the issue and it is fixed now.
It was a rather artificial problem which crashed when setting state (loading DAW project) after the GUI was closed, which wouldn't happen in reality. But it was a bug nonetheless
- KVRian
- 646 posts since 12 May, 2004
I found this to be a real fun synth to program...however, in the process of experimenting with it, I found, more often than not that the interface could really benefit with some sort of “copy/paste” functionality for elements like oscillators, filters, EGs & LFOs. I’d love to be able to right click over the modules and get a copy & paste dialog. It’d really speed things up, programming-wise.
On a number of Macs
- KVRAF
- 4277 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
I wonder about that. Maybe that's what Waveform 11 us doing with the VST3 plugins (usually made with JUCE, it seems) that render no audio. It might be doing some state querying and setting for the render process (GUI closed).TheWaveWarden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:00 pm Actually, your post made me look into the issue and it is fixed now.
It was a rather artificial problem which crashed when setting state (loading DAW project) after the GUI was closed, which wouldn't happen in reality. But it was a bug nonetheless
I just made a simple project in Waveform 11 with a single instance of Odin 2.1.0 playing a few notes. When I tried to render it, the resulting file was silent and the instance of Odin in the edit was broken. This is behaviour I've seen before with other VST3 plugins.
I'll test with the updated version, too...
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 281 posts since 10 Apr, 2020
Tracktion not rendering audio is another one of my open issues. Maybe you're the original reporter?pough wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:41 pm I just made a simple project in Waveform 11 with a single instance of Odin 2.1.0 playing a few notes. When I tried to render it, the resulting file was silent and the instance of Odin in the edit was broken. This is behaviour I've seen before with other VST3 plugins.
I'll test with the updated version, too...
Haven't had time for it until now.
Seems weird that JUCE plugins out of all would show this issue. After all JUCE was born out of Traction
- KVRAF
- 4277 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
No, but I have been discussing it for other plugins in the Tracktion forum. If you manage to solve it, it might get solved for other developers, too. I'm not a programmer (except web stuff) but one thing I have noticed is that most (but not all) of the plugins that render nothing will also trip up in pluginVal. It's consistently at the point where default bus layouts are being restored. I looked at the pluginVal source code and during the tests it requests the default bus layout and saves it to a variable. Then it runs some tests to do with changing the bus layouts. At the end, it tries to restore the default bus layout with that variable and that's where the tests fail.TheWaveWarden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:12 pm Tracktion not rendering audio is another one of my open issues. Maybe you're the original reporter?
Haven't had time for it until now.
Getting and restoring bus layouts might be what Waveform is doing that breaks VST3 plugins.
Lines 29 (get) and 54 (set) here:
https://github.com/Tracktion/pluginval/ ... sTests.cpp
I know! But hopefully it will make it easier to track down what's going wrong. Then reporting it to the JUCErs will allow them to push a fix out to all the devs. (fingers crossed)TheWaveWarden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:12 pm Seems weird that JUCE plugins out of all would show this issue. After all JUCE was born out of Traction
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware