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[leo007]

Excellent find, leo007.

I don't see myself upgrading my PC anytime soon, so not sure if I should jump on the deal. What if the license fails to activate after say 4 years when I build a new PC?

thank you
very good question my friend
I guess it better be addressed to PWworld to see what guarantees they provide in such cases.

but based on escalona experience with similar licence you have nothing to worry about

[mladi]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

[WatchTheGuitar]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

It’s useful if you’ve got your own Windows based network, but there aren’t any DAW specific advantages AFAIK unless you are into the crazy world of dual CPUs and 256GB of RAM. As a coder the most useful thing in pro for me is hyper-v which lets you create virtual servers in their own sandboxes for trying things out, but there are now a multitude of free and paid alternative options which would work with Home and there’s always dual-booting Windows with a Linux install.

[zacha]

I think that is an OEM license. You can get those cheaper if you shop around.

Edit: At closer inspection, this might actually be a regular license. I might give it a try.

I either think license isn't OEM. so it make this offer highly worth this case

Just bought it and upgraded my home license and surprisingly, this is actually a regular retail license. You can get an OEM license for around 20$. For a retail license, this is a really good price.

I just got this too. Just be aware also that if you're outside the US, you can just change the currency back to USD. The real conversion rates seem better than the ones provided by the site

[LoveEnigma18]

I think that is an OEM license. You can get those cheaper if you shop around.

Edit: At closer inspection, this might actually be a regular license. I might give it a try.

I either think license isn't OEM. so it make this offer highly worth this case

Excellent find, leo007.

I don't see myself upgrading my PC anytime soon, so not sure if I should jump on the deal. What if the license fails to activate after say 4 years when I build a new PC?

Those licenses are golden. I upgraded from Windows 7 Pro a year ago using exactly the same license number and I've been in Windows 10 Pro since. Those licenses are a lifetime thing. Basically I'm still using the same license I bought in 2009.

Excellent find, leo007.

I don't see myself upgrading my PC anytime soon, so not sure if I should jump on the deal. What if the license fails to activate after say 4 years when I build a new PC?

thank you
very good question my friend
I guess it better be addressed to PWworld to see what guarantees they provide in such cases.

but based on escalona experience with similar licence you have nothing to worry about

Thanks for the feedback friends. My case is similar, except that I had paid $200, a little disappointing, for Windows 7 Pro initially when I built my first PC. Fortunately, I could use the same W7 product key on my "second PC" a couple of years ago and I got the free upgrade to Windows 10 Pro. So, technically I used two PCs with one product key.

Assuming these sales might happen again, I will skip for now since even $40 is significant for me right now. I don't plan to replace this new PC for years to come, so until then I am secured with my Windows 10 Pro license.

I wonder if the same W7 key could be used once again later down the road when I eventually get my 3rd PC.

This is an absolutely no-brainer deal for anyone wanting Windows 10 Pro.

[LoveEnigma18]

Just be aware also that if you're outside the US, you can just change the currency back to USD. The real conversion rates seem better than the ones provided by the site

Great point. I did not buy it, but did observe that I could choose USD, which offers the lowest conversion rate for me compared to other major currencies GBP and EUR.

[Harry_HH]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

It’s useful if you’ve got your own Windows based network, but there aren’t any DAW specific advantages AFAIK unless you are into the crazy world of dual CPUs and 256GB of RAM. As a coder the most useful thing in pro for me is hyper-v which lets you create virtual servers in their own sandboxes for trying things out, but there are now a multitude of free and paid alternative options which would work with Home and there’s always dual-booting Windows with a Linux install.

Sounds impresive. If you turn that in the practical language, take the end-user point of view, what does it mean? Pros and cons in terms of price, quality, speed & performance, versatility?

[leo007]

I wonder if the same W7 key could be used once again later down the road when I eventually get my 3rd PC.

you can test W7 key in virtualization software like virtualbox (which is free)

[LoveEnigma18]

I wonder if the same W7 key could be used once again later down the road when I eventually get my 3rd PC.

you can test W7 key in virtualization software like virtualbox (which is free)

Great idea my friend. Thanks, but unfortunately I will the skip the purchase for now. I have bookmarked the linked by the way.

[leo007]

Great idea my friend. Thanks, but unfortunately I will the skip the purchase for now. I have bookmarked the linked by the way.

have a wonderful weekend buddy

[WatchTheGuitar]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

It’s useful if you’ve got your own Windows based network, but there aren’t any DAW specific advantages AFAIK unless you are into the crazy world of dual CPUs and 256GB of RAM. As a coder the most useful thing in pro for me is hyper-v which lets you create virtual servers in their own sandboxes for trying things out, but there are now a multitude of free and paid alternative options which would work with Home and there’s always dual-booting Windows with a Linux install.

Sounds impresive. If you turn that in the practical language, take the end-user point of view, what does it mean? Pros and cons in terms of price, quality, speed & performance, versatility?

What I wrote isn't technobabble, it does mean something, but the TLDR is most users won't find anything in Pro useful that they don't already have in Home.
Think of virtual servers or virtual client versions of Windows (sometimes just known generically as virtual machines) as completely self-contained entities which you can install stuff on to try out and remove, restore back to factory settings whenever you want etc without filling your main PC full of potentially unwanted or at worst dangerous crap. A lot of testers use it to launch different versions of Windows to test that their stuff still works on Windows 8.1 or different browsers. Many times I'll use a bare version to ensure I haven't tied what I wrote to be dependent on some DLLs or other files that aren't included in a standard build of Windows.
You could in theory install an older 32-bit version of Windows on a VM and use that to host plugins and DAWs and the like that never got upgraded to 64-bit, but you'd probably get latency and it's not something I'd personally want to mess with. Lots do use it for happily playing older DOS games.

For me as a coder if I want to work with databases I can fire up a virtual SQL Server and use that within my PC, but as soon as I finish work I can turn that shit off and not have it use up precious CPU cycles or memory. In fact a decent analogy that KVR users will get is to think of a virtual server as a track in a DAW like Ableton Live that has been deactivated. It can contain all sorts of plugins that normally use up processor cycles and memory, but you can remove the load completely and then when you want to work with it again to change something and bounce out again you can reactivate it.

Now Windows 10 Pro allows you to easily fit into Microsoft's enterprise eco-system where you authenticate users via something called active directory (an active directory of users and what they are permitted to do on the system basically) and link up with boxes that handle email (Exchange), databases (SQL Server), stuff held remotely in the cloud (Azure) and hyper-v is MS's virtualisation technology, but if you don't need all of that and still fancy dabbling with virtual servers then virtualbox or other things are available out there for download and a lot of good free ones too.

Here's a vid explaining virtualisation tech that uses virtualbox by way of example

[telecode]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

It’s useful if you’ve got your own Windows based network, but there aren’t any DAW specific advantages AFAIK unless you are into the crazy world of dual CPUs and 256GB of RAM. As a coder the most useful thing in pro for me is hyper-v which lets you create virtual servers in their own sandboxes for trying things out, but there are now a multitude of free and paid alternative options which would work with Home and there’s always dual-booting Windows with a Linux install.

Sounds impresive. If you turn that in the practical language, take the end-user point of view, what does it mean? Pros and cons in terms of price, quality, speed & performance, versatility?

There are no pros to using virtualization on a DAW machine. Its just useful to spin up other small VM's that run other OSs in a closed off environment so you can test and set stuff up on and package up and send away somewhere if needed without screwing up your own system. Virtualization consume computing resources, space, RAM and CPU cycles. You are better off turning off all VT in BIOS if you don't use it. Containerization replaced it and it's much better as it doesn't waste as much disk space.

[Scotty]

The price is good of course but why you would upgrade your Win 10 Home to Pro? There are no advantages for your DAW.

I was under the impression that you couldn't lock down updates with Windows 10 Home and that was the main reason for using Windows 10 Pro. Is that not true?

[mladi]

I'm pretty sure you can lock down OS updates also with the Home-Edition but that's a thing i surely wouldn't do.

[ThomasHelzle]

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10