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Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:03 pm

I heard an advert for the new Manics album on the telly earlier and the song playing was awful. It got me thinking - How bad are the Manics? These are my thoughts:

- Very, very bad name.
- Said they were going to split after first album but didnt
- Backwards-looking music sound on their first two albums (who really needs an indie band doing 70s FM rock?)
- Tinny goth on the third album - totally anaemic
- Horrible Ford Mondeo man music on the rest of the albums
- Toy lyrics that pretend to sound clever and intelligent, but sound like six formers rebelling by reading the Communist Manifesto.
- Doing almost nothing in public about a very troubled band member and not doing anything about the death cult that was springing up around him
- If they ever meant their politcs, then they sold out completly, showing their true colours. Nicky Wire was promoting Dido in the Observer the other week.

What do you all think?

baggio · Post by **baggio** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:21 pm

Doing almost nothing in public about a very troubled band member and not doing anything about the death cult that was springing up around him

Your entitled to your opinion about this band music but what did you expect them to do in public.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:32 pm

baggio wrote:
Doing almost nothing in public about a very troubled band member and not doing anything about the death cult that was springing up around him
Your entitled to your opinion about this band music but what did you expect them to do in public.

Very true
But if you ever hung around with the kids obsessed with Richy Edwards and watched them cut themselves to pieces in deference to him, it was heartbreaking.
Yes they were depressed before, but the mutilation was influenced by him. It is not his fault, but nothing was done by the others in the band and by the culture that sprang up around them.
There is nothing romantic about being a depressive - I know.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:42 pm

Bunnyboy wrote:There is nothing romantic about being a depressive - I know.

as do i (and and quite a few others around here) ...

... but the manics are still one of my automatically-buy-whatever-they-put-out bands ...

(never was into the cult of richie myself though TBH)

slainte

rob

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:46 pm

pHz wrote:
... but the manics are still one of my automatically-buy-whatever-they-put-out bands ...

(never was into the cult of richie myself though TBH)

slainte rob

Bugger, you like the music

Can't really argue with someone over that

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:50 pm

Bunnyboy wrote:Bugger, you like the music
Can't really argue with someone over that

heehee ...

... i quite like the lyrics too (but not just richies - i equally admire MOST of nicky wires words) ... they might be clumsy reactionaries but they still DO take on lyrical subjects that most wont go near ...

slainte

rob

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:51 pm

and despite what you say ...

... the holy bible is a remarkable piece of work by ANYONES standards ...

... shame the new testament never saw the light of day ...

slainte

rob

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:06 pm

pHz wrote:and despite what you say ...

... the holy bible is a remarkable piece of work by ANYONES standards ...

... shame the new testament never saw the light of day ...

slainte rob

Now this is a personal problem I have with them - or else posting this wouldnt be half as fun

Its the same reason I dont really like Monty Python.
Yes they are good, and some stuff (e.g Life of Brian) is very funny, but always seemed to me:
"Right in my History degree, I learned that so-and-so was alive in 1763, but not in 1971, so it will be really funny to have him there"

Manics lyrics: "I learned the history of the Vietnam war - Lets set the chronology of it to music"

Anyway Closer by Joy Division pisses all over Richey's lyrics

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griels · Post by **griels** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:12 am

Well, I liked the stuff on the Holy Bible. Not liked anything by them since that though, and I never really listened that hard to the lyrics... Just seemed like great music.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:18 am

Meh.... I don't care if they've sold out, I don't care if retarded mentally unstable kids want to cut themselves whilst moshing the Manics, I don't even care that their lyrics aren't as profound...

I just don't like their music. Its formulaic whip cream. Cheese on toast.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:01 am

I do like the Manics, I must admit. But their musical direction of late has left me a little baffled. There last album was pretty average, and this latest offering sounds like pure, undiluted filth. Im not one to begrudge change but i think the Manics have strayed a little to far with this one.

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:08 am

good once, shite now.

Synthpopkid · Post by **Synthpopkid** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:18 am

good once, shite now.

Agreed. First album was good.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:30 am

motorcycle emptiness is cool
not a big fan of theirs really but wouldnt say they were offensive in any way musically?
theres a lot worse out there i mean look at oasis...

Manic Street Preachers - A crime against music?