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Eigenfrequenz
KVRer
26 posts since 10 May, 2020

Post Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:35 am

There are intresting RE in the shop which are avaiable as VST.
I hope they offer Malstroem and Grain seperatly one day.

Optimistinker
KVRer
1 posts since 4 Jul, 2020

Post Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:06 pm

Are these plug ins exclusive to Reason Daw or any other DAW?I might as well get something cheap and get these in the process if i can use it in Ableton.

Lotuz2019
KVRian
590 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:14 pm

Optimistinker wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:06 pm
Are these plug ins exclusive to Reason Daw or any other DAW?I might as well get something cheap and get these in the process if i can use it in Ableton.
You can use this in Ableton:

https://youtu.be/xSN0tbnHefs
https://youtu.be/EO1gpbD0paM

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javierosr
KVRist
67 posts since 22 Feb, 2018

Post Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:07 pm

i have some racks in my account, i can use it in this version..?

zoidkirb
KVRist
114 posts since 9 Jun, 2019 from Brisbane Australia

Post Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:54 pm

javierosr wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:07 pm
i have some racks in my account, i can use it in this version..?
Yes.

Broken
KVRist
212 posts since 18 Oct, 2003

Post Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:05 pm

If you own an older version of Reason, would grabbing the lite version of rack allow use of devices like Kong and Grain, etc?

zoidkirb
KVRist
114 posts since 9 Jun, 2019 from Brisbane Australia

Post Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:15 pm

Broken wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:05 pm
If you own an older version of Reason, would grabbing the lite version of rack allow use of devices like Kong and Grain, etc?
No.

Lotuz2019
KVRian
590 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:56 pm

This seems to be the cheapest plugin on PB at the moment:

https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/6541-Sphene-LE

! This version of Reason can only be used with Internet connection.

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IncarnateX
KVRAF
3948 posts since 25 Jan, 2009 from Forgotten Realms

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:06 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:55 pm
It could also be useful if you have sold or are thinking about selling Reason, but still have RE's that have or will become useless and worthless without Reason.
Good point. The lack of ability to sell my REs was the reason I kept 6.5. However, I am actually cool I didn't because the Reason 11 version is what I would have wished for then. To others, it will remain an issue if you have bought many REs like me.
MPC One, Deepmind 6, Karma, Prophecy, Bassstation 2, Fantom 6, JD-Xi, MU100R/VL7 w. BC1, Macbook Air MQD32H/A 13", Keystep, Reason 11.

WasteLand
KVRian
900 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:43 am

IncarnateX wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:06 am
Lotuz2019 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:55 pm
It could also be useful if you have sold or are thinking about selling Reason, but still have RE's that have or will become useless and worthless without Reason.
Good point. The lack of ability to sell my REs was the reason I kept 6.5. However, I am actually cool I didn't because the Reason 11 version is what I would have wished for then. To others, it will remain an issue if you have bought many REs like me.
i think it is agains EU law, the RE's can't be sold. sweden, is a part EU.
like serum, that is now for NFR, it is not legal in europe, EU. and perhaps other countries, or states in the US.
i am not legal expert. so i can be wrong.
win 10 pro; cubase 10.5 pro, live 10 suite+push 2, reaper, reason 11 suite, bitwig studio 3, maschine mk3+jam, arturia V collection 7, korg collection, komplete 11 ultimate, softube modular, VM, meldaproduction etc.
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chk071
KVRAF
24893 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:49 am

Oh my, not this again...

Fact is that none of us knows if it's against exisiting laws. Especially as it is a special case, just like FL Studios lifetime upgrade thing.

If you want to know for sure, sue them. Sue them all. Those money hungry bastards.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

ukm
KVRist
81 posts since 28 Sep, 2002 from Germany

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:50 am

Just deinstalled it after a short test. Tere are too much shortcomings - not only the internet connection.

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IncarnateX
KVRAF
3948 posts since 25 Jan, 2009 from Forgotten Realms

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:52 am

WasteLand wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:43 am
i think it is agains EU law, the RE's can't be sold. sweden, is a part EU.
Yes, I think there was something about that several years ago regarding Image Line's stuff. Then people began to sell whole IM accounts on KVR, referring to an EU trial and precedens. Afair, KVR did not know how to take a stand towards it because it was a rather ambigious mess legally and had to leave the resposibility to the sellers and IM to react upon it. I never followed the issue to an end, so I know nothing about status quo these days. However, you have no 30 days return on REs and no resell. To be fair, Reason Studios actually did return of couple of their own REs in my case, but that was because I went from Reason 11 to Reason 11 suite within two weeks, and they thought it was okay that I did not pay extra for those that came with Suite.
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MPC One, Deepmind 6, Karma, Prophecy, Bassstation 2, Fantom 6, JD-Xi, MU100R/VL7 w. BC1, Macbook Air MQD32H/A 13", Keystep, Reason 11.

chk071
KVRAF
24893 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:56 am

Noone here knows anything about whether it is against laws that Reason Studios make RE's no ntransferrable. It's a bit more complicated that simply arguing "Software must be resellable. Period.". As I said, it needs a court ruling in this special case. File a suit, if you want to know exactly. That is the only way. The only way to be able to figure it out avoiding pseudo juridicial guess work.

Personally, I can't believe how many times stuff like this comes up here...
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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IncarnateX
KVRAF
3948 posts since 25 Jan, 2009 from Forgotten Realms

Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:05 am

It is a rather old issue now @chk071, and since you still cannot resell or get your REs refunded, any trials that occured in the meanwhile must have failed. Reason Studios can do it and the customers can decline REs and use VSTis instead if it is a pita to them. Doesn't get much better that this, seemingly. It is not really a problem to me. I buy REs on sale and many of the smaller modules are cheap already. Even if I sold Reason now, I have sold hardware with greater loss.
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MPC One, Deepmind 6, Karma, Prophecy, Bassstation 2, Fantom 6, JD-Xi, MU100R/VL7 w. BC1, Macbook Air MQD32H/A 13", Keystep, Reason 11.

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