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WatchTheGuitar
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2302 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:17 pm

xbitz wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:28 pm
wasn't able to route MIDI in it to the slots of the mixer etc
In Studio One the mixer is purely for audio mixing. Anything MIDI based you have to do within an instrument track. It can take studio one three tracks to achieve what other DAWs can do in one, but you can usually find a way to do it.

The most important default key shortcut to know is F4 which when a track is selected will reveal extra track settings such as where the track routes from and to and on which channel.

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antic604
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5682 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:52 pm

xbitz wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:28 pm
but wasn't able to route MIDI in it to the slots of the mixer etc. ... :( to able to do it I should route back the MIDI from outside of S1 ... cmon, https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-studio-one.html
I wouldn't trust that guide, as it's completely wrong for Bitwig, too:
https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-bitwig.html
Bitwig 3 // Reason 11 // Studio One 5 Pro @ Lenovo Y730 15'' i7-8750h
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xbitz
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2818 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:10 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:52 pm
xbitz wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:28 pm
but wasn't able to route MIDI in it to the slots of the mixer etc. ... :( to able to do it I should route back the MIDI from outside of S1 ... cmon, https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-studio-one.html
I wouldn't trust that guide, as it's completely wrong for Bitwig, too:
https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-bitwig.html
not worth the effort FL Studio can automate/modulate through its internal controllers anything from anywhere similar fashion way of Bitwig (has more versatile but less sophisticated method) simply too good
It’s equally as awesome as Bitwig’s modulators, but for different reasons.
- https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... ation.html
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

Trancit
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2853 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:18 am

xbitz wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:10 am
antic604 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:52 pm
xbitz wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:28 pm
but wasn't able to route MIDI in it to the slots of the mixer etc. ... :( to able to do it I should route back the MIDI from outside of S1 ... cmon, https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-studio-one.html
I wouldn't trust that guide, as it's completely wrong for Bitwig, too:
https://www.cableguys.com/midishaper-bitwig.html
not worth the effort FL Studio can automate/modulate through its internal controllers anything from anywhere similar fashion way of Bitwig (has more versatile but less sophisticated method) simply too good
It’s equally as awesome as Bitwig’s modulators, but for different reasons.
- https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... ation.html
But it´s still a Studio One thread, isn´t it?? :D

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antic604
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5682 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:39 am

Trancit wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:18 am
But it´s still a Studio One thread, isn´t it?? :D
I think we've passed well beyond this when discussing pro vs. hobbyist musicians :D

Now we just wait until Hitler is mentioned and thread can be closed then. Ooops! :bang:
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xbitz
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2818 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:42 am

^^^ dunno :D https://www.musicradar.com/news/madeon- ... vanced-daw
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in "pro vs. hobbyist" topic

yepp it's still S1 topic just complaining about its MIDI CC/automation routing capability because otherwise really like its concepts (has chorder, score view, scratchpad really good in it etc. )
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

xbitz
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2818 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:56 am

ahamm, so audio/mixing has the prio in S1, still MIDI routing https://answers.presonus.com/3164/seria ... as-note-fx
...The current Multi Instrument basically is a folder with an audio bus. You can't compare it to Bidule which is much more extensive... as an Alternative to Multi Instruments:

1. Use FL Studio as a VSTi and use the Patcher https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHe ... atcher.htm . I love Patcher primarily because it has the multi-touch Control Surface.

2. I love Bidule for the freedom of midi and audio routing. Bidule beside replacing Multi Instruments it can also be used as an Instrument Input. Done it this both ways in Cubase.

3. Besides Bidule there is energyXT and other free and paid modular VST/VSTi’s that can host VST/VSTi’s. Too bad that the free MiniHost Modular by Image-Line has issues in the 64 bit Studio One.
maybe in the following versions MIDI gonna get more love, fingers crossed
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Robert Randolph
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2242 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:56 pm

tonedef71 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:14 am
xbitz wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 am
still not possible routing MIDI directly into effects https://answers.presonus.com/25522/midi ... ts-inserts seems nonsense to me

getting to understand where those routing values come from
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https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html
So on a scale of 0 to 10, Studio One gets a 2 rating for its routing capabilities? Tough crowd!
Just to be clear, these values aren't "How good is it relative to what most people would do".

They are "How much functionality does this product have compared to the product with the most functionality in this class".

This often means that some products that have sufficient functionality for common workflows will have low ratings.

This Studio One Rating should be higher though. At least a 3. :help:
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billcarroll
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1921 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:22 pm

macmuse wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:54 pm
How's the CPU?
I’m suprised no one has posted CPU comparisons between v4.x and v5.x

jinotsuh
KVRist
484 posts since 31 May, 2008 from Australia

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:55 pm

No 'scientific' tests here, no need really for me, but there is no noticeable difference in CPU performance either way, and that's all that matters really. Couldn't care less if a more 'scientific' method reported CPU performance was better or worse if it is unnoticeable in the real world.

EnGee
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6285 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:16 pm

Robert Randolph wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:56 pm
tonedef71 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:14 am
xbitz wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 am
still not possible routing MIDI directly into effects https://answers.presonus.com/25522/midi ... ts-inserts seems nonsense to me

getting to understand where those routing values come from
Image
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html
So on a scale of 0 to 10, Studio One gets a 2 rating for its routing capabilities? Tough crowd!
Just to be clear, these values aren't "How good is it relative to what most people would do".

They are "How much functionality does this product have compared to the product with the most functionality in this class".

This often means that some products that have sufficient functionality for common workflows will have low ratings.

This Studio One Rating should be higher though. At least a 3. :help:
Little bit off topic! You gave Logic 1/10 in routing! Has it changed that much?! I remember in the old days there was "Environment" that you need really to read/study a lot about it in order to use it! It is not there anymore?

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Robert Randolph
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2242 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:31 pm

EnGee wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:16 pm
Robert Randolph wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:56 pm
tonedef71 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:14 am
xbitz wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 am
still not possible routing MIDI directly into effects https://answers.presonus.com/25522/midi ... ts-inserts seems nonsense to me

getting to understand where those routing values come from
Image
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html
So on a scale of 0 to 10, Studio One gets a 2 rating for its routing capabilities? Tough crowd!
Just to be clear, these values aren't "How good is it relative to what most people would do".

They are "How much functionality does this product have compared to the product with the most functionality in this class".

This often means that some products that have sufficient functionality for common workflows will have low ratings.

This Studio One Rating should be higher though. At least a 3. :help:
Little bit off topic! You gave Logic 1/10 in routing! Has it changed that much?! I remember in the old days there was "Environment" that you need really to read/study a lot about it in order to use it! It is not there anymore?
I don't think it's good to clutter this thread with chat about my website and different DAW. Please DM me or comment there or start another thread etc...

(Logic's routing still sucks comparatively)
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Robert Randolph
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2242 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:35 pm

billcarroll wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:22 pm
macmuse wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:54 pm
How's the CPU?
I’m suprised no one has posted CPU comparisons between v4.x and v5.x
I'd happily do this.

If someone came up with a test project or ideas to execute, then I'll put together some numbers.

Don't have time to craft a realistic test myself. I'm still busy with this whole "Studio One Jitter" thing which is apparently more complex (and potentially more broken) than I originally thought.
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antic604
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5682 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:35 am

billcarroll wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:22 pm
macmuse wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:54 pm
How's the CPU?
I’m suprised no one has posted CPU comparisons between v4.x and v5.x
Why you're 'surprised'? The changelog doesn't mention any changes in this area and I also can't see it working better or worse on my system, at least :shrug:
Bitwig 3 // Reason 11 // Studio One 5 Pro @ Lenovo Y730 15'' i7-8750h
my music - https://soundcloud.com/antic604

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EnochLight
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1667 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:58 am

antic604 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:39 am
I think we've passed well beyond this when discussing pro vs. hobbyist musicians :D

Now we just wait until Hitler is mentioned and thread can be closed then. Ooops! :bang:
You *HAD* to invoke Godwins Law... so soon?! We’re only on page 3 million! :lol:
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