Short Tutorial MSF: Choose one output of four inputs (Multiparam, Banks Mode, Patches included)

[] Peter:H []

Hi all,

in a post else where somebody asked: I have several Inputs and I want to use them as side-chain input to a merge. I want to control which of the inputs is used by a multi-parameter. Only one input should be used at any time.

In this tutorial I show one possible setup. It's just for the sake of demonstrating things. Exactly the same result could be achived with another trick, but that's another tutorial.

This tutorial has 4 parts:

• Basic Setup (patch included)
• Setup of the multiparameter
• Configuring the banks (patch included)
• Final result and ideas for experiments

So let's start with the basic setup:

• It's one main Oscillator
• 4 oscillators "Osc 1-4" which are the side-chain inputs for the merger. For the sake of the demo I chose basic Osc and just setup some different values that you can hear the effect
• A mixer where Osc 1 -4 are connected as inputs. Exactly this mixer is at the heart of this tutorial. It allows me to control the volumes of Osc 1 - 4 which is passed on to...
• The Merger where #1 is the main input and the mixer output #2 is fed as side-chain

Tutorial Basic Setup.png

Here's the basic setup, see picture 1 and the patch:

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2nd let's control the inputs
The goal is to use only 1 of Osc 1 -4 as input at any time. We use a multiparameter to control this.
But how are we gonna solve this "mutual exclusive" thing?
We can translate this into settings of the volume controls of the mixer.
If for instance you want to set Osc 1, then: Vol 1 in the Mixer is +12db, all others are set to "silence"
If for instance you want to set Osc 3, then: Vol 3 in the Mixer is +12db, all others are set to "silence"
and so on.
So this means we need "4 configurations", each controlls more than one parameter.
This is an indicator for banks mode!

So let's go through it

• Go to M1, set it in banks mode (Picture 2, #1).
• Click "learn" (Picture 2, #2)
• Move each of the 4 volume controls in the mixer...which will add four parameters to each bank (Picture 2, #3)
• Don't forget to give M1 a name, not depicted
• Set the "Value mode" to "By bank number" and the "Steps" to 4 (not depicted)

Tutorial Multi Param Banks mode.png

Now we are almost there: Configure the banks
Now it's simple to configure the M1 banks. Each column, for instance 1 represents a "configuration" of all 4 volume controls, so to set up config 1, i.e. Osc 1 on , all others off
Check out the 3rd picture and the following patch

Tutorial Banks configuration.png

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Now it|s fun time: We reached out goal
Use the above patch and uncheck "edit" mode.
You'll find a single knob which allows you to select the values between "1" - "4".
By switching it to 2, you chose configuration number 2, i.e. Osc 2 serves as input all others are silent.

Fun part for you now is to do some experiments on your own.
For example: Try to add a 5th configuration with all Oscs "on", or with a individual mix of them.
Or you could also control the "merge algorithm" which is used by each of the configurations/banks.

In my Octave Cat Experiment (still not released, sorry But I control more than 8 parameters with a configuration / bank

Tutorial Octave Cat example configuration.png

If you like the tutorial - give it a thumbs up.
Any questions regarding this?
Any wishes for other tutorials?

I'm not associated with Melda. Doing this out of feeling of contributing, and because I'm a nerd and it's easy for me to find my way around technology and explain it... most of the time even in an understandable way . Anyway, If you feel you like it and want to support me with a small donation ... paypal.me/PeterHMusic

[peejay123]

This is great!

Always really interesting to see how others use Melda stuff.

More please!

[werzel]

Great job Peter!
Easy to follow and includes ideas to further the tutorial itself.
Tutorial challenge/ request: Create a sequencer without using the ARP.

Cheers

[David]

Great job Peter!
Easy to follow and includes ideas to further the tutorial itself.
Tutorial challenge/ request: Create a sequencer without using the ARP.

Cheers

This is great!

Always really interesting to see how others use Melda stuff.

More please!

Here's a device with a similar Bank usage, also controlling Mixer-channel activations (in this case the Mute status, but used the same way as in the tutorial), PLUS it's one sort of answer to the challenge of sequencing in MSF, without using the Arp:

TensionLab.zip

This thing (looks WAY over-complicated, I know…) uses 3 oscillators feeding three mixer channels, each one level modulated to create an un-typical pattern-composition device. If the three Osc are set to different pitches, textures, waves, etc. (plus they each have unique FX), shifting and stepping between them using the great Melda mod tools creates quite potentially rich transposable phrases, texture and pulse sequences and loops, ostinatos, etc… as you can discover from the many Presets. The Mute Bank controls simply offer another way to mold the textures available, providing 1, 2 or 3 voices in any combination for mixing together.



Plus, the mixer level mods are per-voice, so you can have multiple pitched sounds triggered and blending in and out, out of phase with each other but still synced, just by triggering them at different times…

It's not actually as complex as it looks, since there's a lot of controls that are handy but not much needed to get dramatic changes and precise results. Plus there's some randomization possible. More detail, maybe even a video walk-through, is certainly possible if any interest emerges… But it should all be pretty straight-forward once you start dissecting it in EDIT Mode.

[David]

In this tutorial I show one possible setup. It's just for the sake of demonstrating things. Exactly the same result could be achived with another trick, but that's another tutorial.

Love to see that one, too, Peter—Thanks!

[] Peter:H []

Thanks Guys, for you positive feedback!

In this tutorial I show one possible setup. It's just for the sake of demonstrating things. Exactly the same result could be achived with another trick, but that's another tutorial.

Love to see that one, too, Peter—Thanks!

Okay, I will do that one as well...may be next week.

Great job Peter!
Easy to follow and includes ideas to further the tutorial itself.

Cheers

I think that's how good tutorials are written. Providing you a simple solution for a particular problem, but on the other hand encourage readers to do experiments on their own.

Tutorial challenge/ request: Create a sequencer without using the ARP.

I have here a very rudimentary 8 step sequencer ... is it that what you thinking off?
I'm not quite sure whether this makes a good tutorial, because this solution includes some "workarounds" for me and MSF. I was simply not able to build it the straight forward way. Lack of knowledge probably.
Thus explaining "workarounds" seems somewhat "not so helpful" to me. Or ist it?

Here's the experimental device viewtopic.php?f=138&t=549448

[werzel]

I would definitely like to see a tutorial for both Peter and David's "sequencers" (though I haven't messed with either one yet).
The opportunity to learn would be twofold and extremely interesting to see how the approach differs.

[David]

A while back jm8 posted a basic example of a step sequencer that uses a stepped LFO to control pitch modulation, along with another for volume. I tried to find the post to link to it with no luck, so here it is again pasted from my MSF, where I'd saved it, all credit to jm8 of course, and hope he won't object!:

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It's a hack, but a quite effective one, esp since he's also built an Easy Screen to allow for adjusting it and saving presets as shown, all of which can be picked apart in his example. I also seem to recall a Chandler video in which he shows how to attach a multiparameter to each step in a stepped LFO; quite surprising, very easy and really cool! I know there's some other examples of this step-sequencer approach doing lots of different stuff in the MSF Exchange but I couldn't immediately find any…

[] Peter:H []

A while back jm8 posted a basic example of a step sequencer that uses a stepped LFO to control pitch modulation, along with another for volume. I tried to find the post to link to it with no luck, so here it is again pasted from my MSF, where I'd saved it, all credit to jm8 of course, and hope he won't object!:

It's a hack, but a quite effective one, esp since he's also built an Easy Screen to allow for adjusting it and saving presets as shown, all of which can be picked apart in his example. I also seem to recall a Chandler video in which he shows how to attach a multiparameter to each step in a stepped LFO; quite surprising, very easy and really cool! I know there's some other examples of this step-sequencer approach doing lots of different stuff in the MSF Exchange but I couldn't immediately find any…

Sure, there's different approaches. My Sequencer uses no ARP but retriggerable Env and has a "runlight" indicating the current step... Having an Retriggerable Env is on the one hand a limitation because it can only be used in "Paraphonic mode"... on the other hand I can apply the Env to the VCA and the Filter which is kind of cool. But why not change the thread and discuss "Sequencers" over there: viewtopic.php?f=138&t=549448

And in terms of steps LFOs, you wanna check out my "Kraftwerk Robot Bass with Drums" Single Finger Patch. I have posted it a while ago ... And actually that lead to one of my Feature Request which allows to sync LFOs to the ARP which is now implemented. Cool isn't it.

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[David]

] Peter:H [ said:

Thus explaining "workarounds" seems somewhat "not so helpful" to me. Or ist it?

I think so, since there's no telling where others may go with your info. Esp. in Melda tools, which are packed tight with solutions that are non-typical and often non-obvious, if not to say: mostly "workarounds", too:)

[David]

] Peter:H [ said:

But why not change the thread and discuss "Sequencers" over there: viewtopic.php?f=138&t=549448

Ok, see'ya there:)