Tyrell VST3 stopped working after recent Bitwig update

[Echoes in the Attic]

It used to work fine until Bitwig 3.2.5 and now I get the attached error. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling but still the same. When I say uninstall I mean just deleting files, are there no u-he uninstallers on windows?

Anyways, I also noticed the following in the VST3 readme:

Important information about the VST3 version
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During installation, the VST3 version is not enabled by default, and we highly recommend using VST2 for the time being. If you need to install VST3, e.g. if you have existing projects that already include VST3 versions of our software, please use the customization option in the installer, and enable VST3.

After working on full VST3 versions for several months, we were still encountering random errors and glitches - we had simply underestimated the complexity. Steinberg's advice was to do a complete rewrite as "simplified" VST3 (also included in SDK). However, rewriting would have meant considerable work, so we finally decided to call our current VST3 implementation "experimental" until we can afford to take the necessary steps.

Known issues with the VST3 versions:

- they don't report parameters on preset changes
- in Wavelab, they show symbols instead of registration info
- they crash FL 11 beta
- they don't show the selected patch name when a project is reopened

Again: We recommend using the VST2 versions for now. They behave the same, they sound the same, they're tried and tested!

Is this information still accurate/relevant? Hasn't U-He sorted out the VST3 issues? Or did Tyrell not get the same treatment as others?

[Viktor [TUC]]

Hello Echoes,

you have to keep in mind that TyrellN6 isn't actively being maintained along with our main product line, so for better or worse, "it is what it is". Meaning, the VST3 in that installer from the Amazona page is 5-6 years old, it's still the buggy one from before we did the full rewrite for our main plugin line.
Did you test the VST2 version as well?

Viktor
u-he team

[Echoes in the Attic]

Yes the VST2 is working fine still. It's just strange that the VST3 suddenly stopped working. I've emailed Bitwig as well, we'll see what they say.

[nevis]

Works fine for me with Bitwig 3.2.6 and Tyrell 3.0.0 (Win10x64) in both vst versions.
I am using the Audiot Plastic Skin, wondering if that is making any difference?

[tasmaniandevil]

Please do not use the VST3 version of TyrellN6.
As stated in the readme file, this outdated VST3 version can cause a variety of problems.
Do yourselves a favour and use the VST2 version.

[akira2]

Hello Echoes,

you have to keep in mind that TyrellN6 isn't actively being maintained along with our main product line, so for better or worse, "it is what it is". ...
Viktor
u-he team

Why ?

[Amram]

Hello Echoes,

you have to keep in mind that TyrellN6 isn't actively being maintained along with our main product line, so for better or worse, "it is what it is". ...
Viktor
u-he team

Why ?

Because time is money

[akira2]

Thanks for your point of view but I would like an official U-HE answer

[EvilDragon]

Because Tyrell was done in cooperation with amazona.de website and they didn't want to continue the cooperation. So it is what it is.


At any rate this is a Bitwig issue - same issue happens with Surge on Linux, but that one is related to VSTGUI...