XLN XO - Can't Select Sample from the Space

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husker37
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151 posts since 24 Dec, 2016

Post Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:11 pm

I recently picked up XLN XO, but I have a fairly irritating problem - I can't select a sample from the "space." Clicking around basically does nothing. It worked for a day or so, then stopped. I removed the built database from the user folder, then re-added and scanned everything. Selecting from the "space" worked again, until I closed the program out. Anytime I start it again, it starts rescanning the folders, and I cannot select from the space.

I believe it may have something to do with a large database perhaps? When I start the program, it takes a good 10 minutes for it to scan all my sample folders (most on an SSD, but a good portion on spinning drives).

Has anyone else experienced this issue?
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tylerdedera
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90 posts since 13 Mar, 2019

Post Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:52 pm

Do you mean that you can’t select any samples at all, or are you able to only select some? I have an issue where about a thousand of my imported samples show up as grayed out dots in the space selection. And trying to select them defaults to the nearest dot that isn’t grayed out no matter how far I zoom in.

husker37
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151 posts since 24 Dec, 2016

Post Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:29 pm

I can't select any at all.
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gondii
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109 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:04 pm

Can't select any at all after a restart is strange. I assume you already contacted support? Hope they can help. I doubt it has anything to do with sample library size, how big is it? Mine is 250k and I never had any issue, although scanning took longer than 10 minutes, but I only have to do it once.
I have an issue where about a thousand of my imported samples show up as grayed out dots in the space selection.


That's the filtering. There is some filtering applied by default. Just click the magnifying glass on the top right corner and check the filters, especially the one that reads "drumminess".

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Rivanni
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375 posts since 4 Feb, 2017

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:20 am

What is the scaling of XO? I have this problem of not being able to select anything if I don't start at 100% zoom. I can change the zoom after opening XO at 100%. I mustn't forget to reset back to 100% when I close XO. And yes, this was already reported as a bug months ago.

tylerdedera
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90 posts since 13 Mar, 2019

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:53 am

gondii wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:04 pm
That's the filtering. There is some filtering applied by default. Just click the magnifying glass on the top right corner and check the filters, especially the one that reads "drumminess".
Wow you're awesome! It's funny all the times I clicked that magnifying glass to search for the samples, and all I had to do was drag the drumminess slider. Thank you!

husker37
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151 posts since 24 Dec, 2016

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:28 pm

Rivanni wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:20 am
What is the scaling of XO? I have this problem of not being able to select anything if I don't start at 100% zoom. I can change the zoom after opening XO at 100%. I mustn't forget to reset back to 100% when I close XO. And yes, this was already reported as a bug months ago.
This very well could be it. I'm always running at 175%. Thank you, I'll check it out.
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husker37
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151 posts since 24 Dec, 2016

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:32 pm

gondii wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:04 pm
Can't select any at all after a restart is strange. I assume you already contacted support? Hope they can help. I doubt it has anything to do with sample library size, how big is it? Mine is 250k and I never had any issue, although scanning took longer than 10 minutes, but I only have to do it once.
Gondii - I have a large database as well. Curious, when you start XO, how long does the scan take - you can watch the white line going under the folder icon. I assume XO is looking for changes in the folders to see if a rescan needs to take place.

Mine takes around 10 minutes each time, and XO is very unresponsive during this time. Thank you.
Roland FA-08 - Moog Slim Phatty - Moog Sirin - Nord A1R - Integra 7 - Prophet Rev2 16 Desktop - Prophet 12 Desktop - AudioThingies MicroMonsta - Maschine Mikro - Eventide Eclipse
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gondii
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109 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:50 pm

husker37 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:32 pm

Gondii - I have a large database as well. Curious, when you start XO, how long does the scan take - you can watch the white line going under the folder icon. I assume XO is looking for changes in the folders to see if a rescan needs to take place.

Mine takes around 10 minutes each time, and XO is very unresponsive during this time. Thank you.
It only took a longer time the very first time. When I start up my DAW there is basically no waiting time for me. XO notices if I made a change to a folder, but rescanning that folder (only if there was a change and then only rescanning that specific folder) is more a question of seconds than it is of minutes. Something seems to not be working properly for you...

EDIT:

Actually... it does rescan the folders in the background when I restart the DAW. My estimate is that it's more 3 minutes than 10. Do you have the samples on an SSD? However I don't notice the scanning, XO works just like it normally does and I can preview the samples without any issues. I do have a relatively fast machine with lots of RAM though...

husker37
KVRist
151 posts since 24 Dec, 2016

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:46 pm

gondii wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:50 pm


Actually... it does rescan the folders in the background when I restart the DAW. My estimate is that it's more 3 minutes than 10. Do you have the samples on an SSD? However I don't notice the scanning, XO works just like it normally does and I can preview the samples without any issues. I do have a relatively fast machine with lots of RAM though...
Thank you. I have a mix of SSD (all the Native Instruments expansions + Battery + Maschine Samples) and spinning drives (everything else). I noticed the scanning because of the issues I've been having. I've recreated the database a handful of times, so I'm very aware of the scanning now. :)

My initial scan takes several hours.
Roland FA-08 - Moog Slim Phatty - Moog Sirin - Nord A1R - Integra 7 - Prophet Rev2 16 Desktop - Prophet 12 Desktop - AudioThingies MicroMonsta - Maschine Mikro - Eventide Eclipse
Cubase Pro on Homebuilt PC / Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 2nd Gen / MIOXL Midi

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