Brainworks Knifonium vs Uhe Diva

[mdstudio]

so bazille sucks and decimort as well? Im interested in this bc I wanted to buy uhe bazille and I use decimort for acid sounds, so please go a bit more i to detail plz!

You probably know this already, but you can get a stripped down version of Bazille with a purchase of the Computer Music magazine. It's very fun to play with.

[Tendou]

Im not sure I really get the PA /Brainworx stuff. Most of it just comes across as overpriced and cheap looking. I know there a few plugins from them that seem to be well regarded so maybe I'm just being picky.

it used to be good.
and a couple of their stuff is really really good, especially a few older ones.
They change devs often tho, and i suspect they're trying to push out as many plugs as possible as fast as possible, so the quality declines - also they do weird shit pricing to coerce you into their Mega subscription package. Quantity > quality mostly.
Others such as unfiltered, dmitry sches and similar that were bought into the fold and not coded by bx are generally fine

ir I recall correctly, the vertigo vsc2 and the shadow hills UAD version wqs made by bx and they both dont suck

[Ploki]

Im not sure I really get the PA /Brainworx stuff. Most of it just comes across as overpriced and cheap looking. I know there a few plugins from them that seem to be well regarded so maybe I'm just being picky.

it used to be good.
and a couple of their stuff is really really good, especially a few older ones.
They change devs often tho, and i suspect they're trying to push out as many plugs as possible as fast as possible, so the quality declines - also they do weird shit pricing to coerce you into their Mega subscription package. Quantity > quality mostly.
Others such as unfiltered, dmitry sches and similar that were bought into the fold and not coded by bx are generally fine

ir I recall correctly, the vertigo vsc2 and the shadow hills UAD version wqs made by bx and they both dont suck

vertigo vsc2 is coded by people long gone from bx.
Shadow Hills UAD is a decade old tho, needs some buffing. and as i said

and a couple of their stuff is really really good, especially a few older ones.

[Calenberger]

I like the PA bashing, it brings down their prices for me.

[Ploki]

I like the PA bashing, it brings down their prices for me.

happy to have been of service

[Tendou]

I like the PA bashing, it brings down their prices for me.

happy to have been of service

[Rik]

I like the PA bashing, it brings down their prices for me.

happy to have been of service

Where is the coupon code

[BONES]

Diva is your cool dad, great dress sense, reliable, drives a Lexus but takes the Jaguar XJS out on weekends. Knifonium is your crazy Vietnam vet uncle who wears Hawaiian shirts, rides a Harley and never returns anything he borrows.

So you're recommending Knifonium, then? From that description it's the one I'd want.

I’ll still vote for Diva though. So versatile and tons of different models to mix and match. There are better analog emulations now (including RePro) but Diva still has a place in anyone’s plugin folder.

Not mine. I remember being hugely impressed the first time I demo'd it but later, when NI were selling u-he stuff for half price, I demo'd it again and found it more sterile and boring than I remembered. I ended up with the RePros and Hive instead, none of which I use very often. I am a little curious about Knifonium but I won't bother with the demo until I can get it cheap but if it's half as good as bx_oberhausen I will probably get it.

Im not sure I really get the PA /Brainworx stuff. Most of it just comes across as overpriced and cheap looking. I know there a few plugins from them that seem to be well regarded so maybe I'm just being picky.

I don't get the brand interest stuff. I take each product on its own merits - my last six cars have been from six different brands and my last 8 laptops have been from 6 different brands (3 x Dells). And bx_oberhausen is just about the best softsynth money can buy. It does stuff no other softsynth I have come across can do, yet is so simple that any idiot, even this one, can get the best out of it. So I don't care if everything else Brainworx has ever done blows goats, I am always going to be check out anything they make. I'm the same with Wim Wenders - he made my all-time favourite film. However, in the last 20 years his stuff has been very ordinary but I still watch his new films, just in case he makes another Wings of Desire.

[canadian_moose]

Oberhausen is actually the one bx plugin I do have and use! I like it a lot.

I’m not suggesting it’s all garbage by any means but there seems to be an awful lot of overpriced, mediocre items with a few diamonds in the rough.

It just feels like it’s quantity over quality when I browse the PA site

[hivkorn]

DIVA WIN - FINISH HIM - FATALITY

[Tj Shredder]

I would rather like to know how Knifonium compares to the only other supposedly tube based synth emulation: Air Vacuum Pro...

[vurt]

dkiva.

[leeleema]

Aye, a chap earlier in the thread said the bx_oberhausen presets were not very good. I think the opposite and find them excellent but I guess it depends on what music you like/make and as ever, YMMV. Regarding Diva, yes great sound but there's a few softsynths that have an 'authentic' sound these days, if that is what you're looking for. I always thought Diva's presets were very poor indeed, and didn't really show what it was capable of, but again YMMV. I'm with BONES actually, you should give bx_oberhausen a little try. I actually sold Diva after having bx_oberhausen for a couple of days.

[BONES]

Yeah, it does feel like now I have bx_oberhausen that a lot of my other plugins won't get much use going forward. I never think to sell anything but there are definitely a handful of synths that I rarely use and could easily live without that I probably should unload.

I would rather like to know how Knifonium compares to the only other supposedly tube based synth emulation: Air Vacuum Pro...

I was thinking the same, only it was because the descriptions of Knifonium seem to also apply to Vacuum Pro. So maybe they are quite similar? I do love my Vacuum Pro (enough that I paid full price for it, rather than wait until it was on sale again).

I like how we've turned this into a bx_oberhausen thread.

[Anchtifi84]

Uhe is the only Soft Synth that´s worth more than 150bugs, most other stuff are relative compared with it are toys i would say, but of it´s price i never bought it myself. I own Knifonium and for 29€ in sale it´s great but it´s not more worthy than 40bugs, the presets are not so special, but it´s capabilities in analog sounding voices are great, a little bit better than the most CherryAudio stuff or from other vendors but not as good than Uhe, Synapse, Blamsoft Viking 1+2, or JPS Harmonic Synthesizer.

And i also must say Oberhausen is at the end two times better than Knifonium, so Knifonium with its 26Tube sound was a big marketing gag and is a big cpu hog, Oberhausen is a real emulation with modern capabilities!

My favorites in analog are, Brainworx Oberhausen, Blamsoft Viking2, CherryAudio CA2600 and Mercury4 and if the sound is not right enough than i personaly use Arturias Mello-Fi what sounds great and for free last time, but it´s a also cpu hog.