Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.5.5 update!

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DanielPL
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26 posts since 30 Apr, 2020 from Poland

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:29 am

kevvvvv wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:15 am
@all
The best place to ask is the avenger facebook forum.
I'm sorry, I don't have facebook account. If it's really unwelcome to share such info here I'm going to ask them directly :)

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HTT
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117 posts since 14 Jul, 2019

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:05 am

Oops :dog:
Last edited by HTT on Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

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zvenx
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8641 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:18 am

lol. edited after your oops :)
rsp
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HTT
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117 posts since 14 Jul, 2019

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:19 am

zvenx wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:18 am
Are you confusing this with Rapid? :)
Is this on sale currently?
rsp
My bad. Two threads going simultaneously...

Sindikhate
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191 posts since 26 Jun, 2016 from London, UK / Hanover, Germany

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm

Oh! I noticed Avenger2 is in the works. I hope they dumb this codemeter crap and go ilok or e-licenser with it.

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clipnotic
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503 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:48 pm

Sindikhate wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm
Oh! I noticed Avenger2 is in the works. I hope they dumb this codemeter crap and go ilok or e-licenser with it.
that will never happen and if, nobody will do this copyprotection change s*** again! :D
VST developers need more motivation and best motivation is hardcore criticism! :D
My english is terrible, feel free to correct me! :wink:

Sindikhate
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191 posts since 26 Jun, 2016 from London, UK / Hanover, Germany

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:37 am

clipnotic wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:48 pm
Sindikhate wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm
Oh! I noticed Avenger2 is in the works. I hope they dumb this codemeter crap and go ilok or e-licenser with it.
that will never happen and if, nobody will do this copyprotection change s*** again! :D
Well, for version2 they could go with a dongle. It will be a paid upgrade. It is not as bad as enforcing codemeter to be used on a product that has already been paid for. Now I know that dongles are not popular, but that never stopped me from buying and using daws and plugins that need them. On the other side codemeter did stop me from buying Avenger. Plugin developers test their plugins mostly on empty projects. Rarely they test them on projects with 100+ tracks where you need to squeeze every last hz out of your cpu. Having cycles getting lost to even more copy protection junk is a no. Iloks and elicensers are universal at this point. (For people who buy their stuff that is)

rlared
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634 posts since 1 Aug, 2016

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:30 am

Sindikhate wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:37 am
clipnotic wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:48 pm
Sindikhate wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm
Oh! I noticed Avenger2 is in the works. I hope they dumb this codemeter crap and go ilok or e-licenser with it.
that will never happen and if, nobody will do this copyprotection change s*** again! :D
Well, for version2 they could go with a dongle. It will be a paid upgrade. It is not as bad as enforcing codemeter to be used on a product that has already been paid for. Now I know that dongles are not popular, but that never stopped me from buying and using daws and plugins that need them. On the other side codemeter did stop me from buying Avenger. Plugin developers test their plugins mostly on empty projects. Rarely they test them on projects with 100+ tracks where you need to squeeze every last hz out of your cpu. Having cycles getting lost to even more copy protection junk is a no. Iloks and elicensers are universal at this point. (For people who buy their stuff that is)
If you're that worried about CPU then Avenger is probably the wrong synth for you. Also why would copy protection be using CPU once the plug-in is loaded?

Elysium.NZ
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80 posts since 10 Apr, 2005 from New Zealand

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:18 am

rlared wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:30 am
If you're that worried about CPU then Avenger is probably the wrong synth for you. Also why would copy protection be using CPU once the plug-in is loaded?
Start plugin in VM, get beyond license check. Snapshot VM. Remove dongle. Restore VM without dongle. A rather simplistic example I admit but plugins and DAWS should periodically be checking the license is valid during runtime.

Actually with a physical dongle they probably only need to get a callback on the device being removed rather than actively monitoring it.

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clipnotic
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503 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Post Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:44 am

Sindikhate wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:37 am
clipnotic wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:48 pm
Sindikhate wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm
Oh! I noticed Avenger2 is in the works. I hope they dumb this codemeter crap and go ilok or e-licenser with it.
that will never happen and if, nobody will do this copyprotection change s*** again! :D
Well, for version2 they could go with a dongle. It will be a paid upgrade. It is not as bad as enforcing codemeter to be used on a product that has already been paid for. Now I know that dongles are not popular, but that never stopped me from buying and using daws and plugins that need them. On the other side codemeter did stop me from buying Avenger. Plugin developers test their plugins mostly on empty projects. Rarely they test them on projects with 100+ tracks where you need to squeeze every last hz out of your cpu. Having cycles getting lost to even more copy protection junk is a no. Iloks and elicensers are universal at this point. (For people who buy their stuff that is)
Weil, I will never buy software, which needs only USB Dongles, I want a working (!) software solution!
VST developers need more motivation and best motivation is hardcore criticism! :D
My english is terrible, feel free to correct me! :wink:

Sindikhate
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191 posts since 26 Jun, 2016 from London, UK / Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:17 pm

I like to turn up with my dongles anywhere and install anything I need without being worried about serials staying on registries etc. Looking for passwords to install, uninstall remove blablablabla. The only thing that sucks about ilok is the 90-day wait to sell something if you just bought it, and the 25$ transfer fee.

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clipnotic
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503 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Post Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:24 pm

That's an never ending senseless argument, because most of available software doesn't use ILok, so if I want turn up all software I need, I still have to do this with the complete setup on my laptop!
VST developers need more motivation and best motivation is hardcore criticism! :D
My english is terrible, feel free to correct me! :wink:

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clipnotic
KVRian
503 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Post Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:27 pm

And again I got the message, that the license will expire in the next days and again I opened VMan to reactivate it and again I got an error message:


VPS Avenger plugin: Execution Error
One of the following licenses is required:
- CodeMeter 6000977:10000:1
Failure reason: CM Container Entry not found, Error200


What's the problem with your company? Are you still not able to fix that f*** error shit or are you still listening only to your facebook fanboys?

EDIT:
And I still have installed CodeMeter 6.90b, because your Facebook fans telling again and again not update to V7!
VST developers need more motivation and best motivation is hardcore criticism! :D
My english is terrible, feel free to correct me! :wink:

pascal020
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24 posts since 19 May, 2017

Post Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:20 am

Demuvi wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:23 pm
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Great stuff, good Job! I like the 80's pack more, simply because i'm more a 80's guy. The only problem for me is that im sure that I will play the original tracks when i play these sounds instead of coming up with something new lol

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DanielPL
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26 posts since 30 Apr, 2020 from Poland

Post Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:23 am

I asked them few questions by mail, about a week ago, but without answer. I don't blame them so much, I was waiting for Ableton's support for a month or so. However there are companies like Reveal Sound who responded me in 2 hours at Saturday.

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