Ben does. And you'll never be able to qualify. Being irritating and antagonizing certainly won't get you there - nice try though...Calenberger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:59 pm How can one qualify for such a top label?
And who chooses it?
Exponential Audio Verbs: PhoenixVerb, Nimbus, R4. Your Thoughts?
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- KVRAF
- 23459 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 23459 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Oh, forgot to add: 
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
Ah, I see! That's the reason we both have the same label, isn't it?jens wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:31 pmBen does. And you'll never be able to qualify. Being irritating and antagonizing certainly won't get you there - nice try though...Calenberger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:59 pm How can one qualify for such a top label?
And who chooses it?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105790 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
are you sure about that?jens wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:31 pmBen does. And you'll never be able to qualify. Being irritating and antagonizing certainly won't get you there - nice try though...Calenberger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:59 pm How can one qualify for such a top label?
And who chooses it?
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- KVRAF
- 23459 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes - actually I was thinking the same right after posting...Calenberger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:38 pmAh, I see! That's the reason we both have the same label, isn't it?jens wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:31 pmBen does. And you'll never be able to qualify. Being irritating and antagonizing certainly won't get you there - nice try though...Calenberger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:59 pm How can one qualify for such a top label?
And who chooses it?
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 23459 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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- addled muppet weed
- 105790 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 23459 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, all good over here (except that my mother in law decided to stay for another two weeks before returning to Spain - I kid, I kid - I was given the chance to veto - it's actually not bad at all: she plays Lego, I play guitar...)
I certainly hope the same goes for you too!
- I kid, I kid - I was given the chance to veto - it's actually not bad at all: she plays Lego, I play guitar...) I certainly hope the same goes for you too!
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRian
- 756 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
well I own the valhalla and im not satisfied (techno production) and I search for alternatives. Lexicon pcm got a good reputation for that genre. so maybe you could enlight me abit about the comparison in terms of sound quality!Tronam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:24 pmSeventh Heaven is a hybrid IR recreation of the Bricasti M7, which I’d consider best suited for realistic spaces more along the lines of reverb systems like the TC 6000. I’m pretty sure the Lexicon PCM bundle is based on their late nineties PCM 90 hardware and maybe they’re by the same coder, but I don’t know how much crossover there is. In the PCM bundle it seems like the Random Hall algorithm is what people talk about most and I haven’t had much success programming the R2 to simulate that type of classic Lexicon sound, but maybe R4 can get closer. Valhalla’s VintageVerb is worthy of consideration too.
sadly im not experienced enough to hear all that just with a trying the demo-
vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 1889 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Lexicon PCM plugins aren’t updated anymore on any kind of ongoing basis. Don’t get those. Hardware would be another story. R4 or LX480 (or maybe IR images). The default preset for R4 is the “famous random hall”.
I like Valhalla Delay a lot more than their reverbs - it’s a “desert island” plugin for me.
I’d check out Sonsig as well, by relab. You don’t need realistic spaces. I find Liquidsonics to heavily color the sound - which is great if you want that.
I like Valhalla Delay a lot more than their reverbs - it’s a “desert island” plugin for me.
I’d check out Sonsig as well, by relab. You don’t need realistic spaces. I find Liquidsonics to heavily color the sound - which is great if you want that.
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- KVRAF
- 2300 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
I agree. It's funny, Valhalla is best known as a Reverb plugin developer, but I never really got those working for me the way I wanted (and, as you know, I use Exponential plugins instead) -- but I absolutely adore both UberMod and Valhalla Delay, and use them pretty much constantly.vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:36 am
I like Valhalla Delay a lot more than their reverbs - it’s a “desert island” plugin for me.
A typical 'retro analog synth instrument' chain for me is: Repro-5 (or similar type plugin instrument) > UberMod (usually for chorus) > Valhalla Delay > R4. The results I get with this chain are absolutely stellar, and I can't imagine buying another chorus or delay effect, the two Valhallas cover those tasks so perfectly. And yet, for reverb? No thanks. I like VVV for some extreme-tail type effects, but that's about it, sadly.
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- KVRAF
- 1511 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
I think a lot of Techno producers use the D16's Toraverb, so maybe have a look at that one too:Tendou wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:49 pmwell I own the valhalla and im not satisfied (techno production) and I search for alternatives. Lexicon pcm got a good reputation for that genre. so maybe you could enlight me abit about the comparison in terms of sound quality!Tronam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:24 pmSeventh Heaven is a hybrid IR recreation of the Bricasti M7, which I’d consider best suited for realistic spaces more along the lines of reverb systems like the TC 6000. I’m pretty sure the Lexicon PCM bundle is based on their late nineties PCM 90 hardware and maybe they’re by the same coder, but I don’t know how much crossover there is. In the PCM bundle it seems like the Random Hall algorithm is what people talk about most and I haven’t had much success programming the R2 to simulate that type of classic Lexicon sound, but maybe R4 can get closer. Valhalla’s VintageVerb is worthy of consideration too.
https://d16.pl/toraverb2
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- KVRAF
- 5677 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
i wanted R4 for so long, ended up with 2 free licenses of R2 and a cheap Nimbus.
Fighting the GAS on this plugin boutique sale, but will I regret it?
R2 --> R4... what are the advantages?
Fighting the GAS on this plugin boutique sale, but will I regret it?
R2 --> R4... what are the advantages?
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRian
- 756 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
Had that and solt that. was just usefull for some reverb kicks and nothing more. I need my breas and butter reverb for m return channel on the templare and therefore I was thinking about lexicon, R4 or seventh heaven pro....adl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:39 amI think a lot of Techno producers use the D16's Toraverb, so maybe have a look at that one too:Tendou wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:49 pmwell I own the valhalla and im not satisfied (techno production) and I search for alternatives. Lexicon pcm got a good reputation for that genre. so maybe you could enlight me abit about the comparison in terms of sound quality!Tronam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:24 pmSeventh Heaven is a hybrid IR recreation of the Bricasti M7, which I’d consider best suited for realistic spaces more along the lines of reverb systems like the TC 6000. I’m pretty sure the Lexicon PCM bundle is based on their late nineties PCM 90 hardware and maybe they’re by the same coder, but I don’t know how much crossover there is. In the PCM bundle it seems like the Random Hall algorithm is what people talk about most and I haven’t had much success programming the R2 to simulate that type of classic Lexicon sound, but maybe R4 can get closer. Valhalla’s VintageVerb is worthy of consideration too.
https://d16.pl/toraverb2
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Trust me, I tried the different modes...VitaminD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:33 pm Well it is a Vintage 'Verb. But it is odd he pointed to one and not the others. I think he just wanted to stomp on one persons PoV to raise their own above it. There's really no discussion there. Especially when they wouldn't even explain how they came to their conclusions (what mode of VVV were they using).
If Sean added a mode which works better for you, fair enough. I surely won't buy it again based on a single new algorithm. Been burned two times now, won't repeat another time. They're just not for me, and I own lots of other reverbs which do a better job for me.