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e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:36 pm

I was just wondering how Mulab records the release velocity of my Midi keyboard, I mean, how can I make the per-note values show in the editor? I can select Velocity, Aftertouch or Pitchbend, but not release velocity.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:01 am

Editing rv is not yet supported.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:17 pm

mutools wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:01 am Editing rv is not yet supported.

Ah ok, but it seems to get registered and recorded by Mulab. So the data must already exist inside Mulab

Would make sense to be able to edit release velocity.

Until yesterday I hadn't even noticed my keyboard sends such signals in the first place

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:36 pm

Ha, if poly AT was added, release velocity would be even easier to add I suspect, since it's just like another velocity lane

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:34 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:36 pm Ha, if poly AT was added, release velocity would be even easier to add I suspect, since it's just like another velocity lane

Yes, that's what I thought as well. And the RV value is probably produced by the same key sensor, just in the opposite direction. So each key is always sending alternating attack and release velocity values.

In Sylenth1, RV seems to be automatically assigned to the same parameter as attack velocity, because there is no separate modulation source called RV. I have never seen that in any synth, I think.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:38 pm

It's almost globally ignored. Note On vel=0 for Note Off is so common that Note Off velocity is rarely worth implementing, I'd guess.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:19 pm

It's kind of a shame because in my view the way you release the key can make a big difference with certain sounds, for instance when emulating guitars. It is not less important than AT in my view.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:39 pm

pljones wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:38 pm It's almost globally ignored. Note On vel=0 for Note Off is so common that Note Off velocity is rarely worth implementing, I'd guess.

Except when you have plugins that take advantage of it.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:23 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:39 pm
pljones wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:38 pm It's almost globally ignored. Note On vel=0 for Note Off is so common that Note Off velocity is rarely worth implementing, I'd guess.
Except when you have plugins that take advantage of it.

Do you know any synth that has a separate release velocity mod source?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:41 pm

Kontakt, Falcon, Reaktor, Pianoteq supports it, a number of other synths too...

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:46 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:41 pm Kontakt, Falcon, Reaktor, Pianoteq supports it, a number of other synths too...

Oh, I don't have any of those.
And are there DAW's where one can edit the RV of recorded notes?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:02 pm

Reaper, and I assume Cubase for sure can. Digital Performer too.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:03 pm

Double post...

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:04 pm

Oh, I have Reaper, checked yesterday, but didn't find RV. I will check again at the weekend

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:17 pm

It's right after the velocity lane in the MIDi editor (in the list of available lanes). Could do it for quite some time now.

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