I wish developers would stop adding reverb on presets ;)

[GMusic]

Not all synths allow you to easily disable effects (particularly reverb) very easily. It seems pretty much every developer on almost every preset uses reverb. Sure, it gives you the "wow this sounds big" feeling of instant satisfaction.

When you're actually making music, and not just listening to a promotional walkthrough video for a library, it makes sense to match reverbs across many instruments in a track. To have 10 instruments all with different reverb units and settings just sounds like a hot mess. If I'm not mistaken, many musicians like to use a reverb bus. So having a reverb on each instrument is overkill and messy.

It would be great if developers provide a "dry" library along with their releases that has no reverb effect added. Otherwise I find myself just disabling the reverb and resaving the patch each time I load a new one up. Very tedious.

[chk071]

Effects are part of the synth. Presets are there to showcase the synth, or to provide production ready sounds for minor tweaking. So, patch designers won't stop adding reverb on presets.

[GMusic]

Effects are part of the synth. Presets are there to showcase the synth, or to provide production ready sounds for minor tweaking. So, patch designers won't stop adding reverb on presets.

I know. It's just a wish.

[chk071]

Fair enough, but, for the synths I own, it's just a single click usually. Spire: Single click. Sylenth1: single click. Massive X: single click. Massive 1: single click. Largo: 2 clicks.

TBH, personally, I don't quite see the issue.

[imrae]

Fair enough, but, for the synths I own, it's just a single click usually. Spire: Single click. Sylenth1: single click. Massive X: single click. Massive 1: single click. Largo: 2 clicks.

TBH, personally, I don't quite see the issue.

That's 2-3 times as many clicks per preset auditioned...

[excuse me please]

Which synths do have this particular inconvenience?

[chk071]

Fair enough, but, for the synths I own, it's just a single click usually. Spire: Single click. Sylenth1: single click. Massive X: single click. Massive 1: single click. Largo: 2 clicks.

TBH, personally, I don't quite see the issue.

That's 2-3 times as many clicks per preset auditioned...

Time to do some own patches!

[imrae]

Yes, this is one of the reasons I barely use presets.

However, I am willing to imagine a better world in which presets are useful.

[Robmobius]

First world problems...

[arovane1]

i try to program my presets with the reverb as an integral sound component. hall gives the sound a spatial dimension in the background. it is a fundamental consideration in the preset design. the reverb can be the sound at the same time. depends on the quality of the internal effects of a synth. if available, i filter out low frequencies to avoid a "muddy" sound and shape the reverb parameters adapted to the amp envelope.

[FapFilter]

I dunno, it's usually takes just one click in order to remove it as has been mentioned before.
Also: should presets come with zero attack & decay aswell, since the preset ones don't fit your style 100%?

Some synths (like the u-he Repros) allow for a global disable of all effects though

[starflakeprj]

Having a built-in reverb in the synth is much more convenient when browsing presets looking for suitable sounds, than having to rely an external reverb that might not sound good with every preset. I'm a preset user or a preset tweaker, more than a sound designer. A developer developing a synth without built-in effects won't get my money.

[arovane1]

a growing number of synth's has a global button/ switch, to mute the fx. good question, "zero attack & decay"?. if macros are available, i link the amp/ filter envelopes segments. it is interesting to edit the amp attack time with the modulation wheel and blend in the reverb at the same time at example. i used that technique with a few presets in my new hive 2 sound set, metric.

[schpaeckulum]

When you're actually making music.....

..... you're not browsing through someone else's presets. Browsing and sound selection is a previous (to find start-up sounds) or later (to find more suitable sounds) stage.

i try to.......

Hi Arovane! Lilies, just beautiful!

[arovane1]

hi schpaeckulum!