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Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:37 am

ATS wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:45 pm

I do like the rent to own but the others almost feel like I am throwing my money away. Sort of like paying rent instead of just using that money to make payments on a home.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:59 am

Subscription is a form of slavery. The money you earn from work go to someone else on monthly basis, for the rest of your life.
Unless you cancel subscription, then you're left with nothing.

My stuff belongs to me. Period.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:17 am

DJ Warmonger wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:59 am Subscription is a form of slavery.

That’s a shitty hot take.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:30 am

Subscription model results in money being constantly transferred from subscribers to owners, who do not necessarily provide any value in case of VST. Thus, the society is divided into subscribers (who own nothing and give away money so they will never own anything) and owners - the ones who have "means of subscription" so to say. 170 years after Marks we're still at the same point.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 am

My point is slavery is too strong a term for something that’s a choice you get to make about what to spend your money on.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:28 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 am My point is slavery is too strong a term for something that’s a choice you get to make about what to spend your money on.

kinda like you can choose not to have a home and just live on the street

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:37 am

Ploki wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:28 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 am My point is slavery is too strong a term for something that’s a choice you get to make about what to spend your money on.
kinda like you can choose not to have a home and just live on the street

false analogy...

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:09 am

ATS wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:37 am
Ploki wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:28 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 am My point is slavery is too strong a term for something that’s a choice you get to make about what to spend your money on.
kinda like you can choose not to have a home and just live on the street
false analogy...

yeah i got overzealous

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:42 am

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Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:14 am

chk071 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:28 pm How do you feel about all those new members posting controversial questions, and then disappearing into the void again?

Personally, I find it quite shady.

I know how I feel about you. OP posted 2 hours (!) before your comment. Get a life.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:26 am

I was talking about "all those new members posting controversial questions, and then disappear again into the void".

Difficult to understand, I know.

I could have just called the OP what he is as well. You know, those guys, living under bridges.

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:24 pm

Absolutely a no-go for me if subscription only is available. This is the final stage of capitalism were the customers are refused ownership.

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:42 pm

Because ownership is overrated.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:00 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:30 am 170 years after Marks we're still at the same point.

Not to mention Spencer.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:30 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 am My point is slavery is too strong a term for something that’s a choice you get to make about what to spend your money on.

Yep. I'm afraid it's the typical exaggeration these days.

That said, I like to own my software (or.. at least... own the right to use it whenever I want, without ongoing payments). I'm not a friend of software subscriptions in general. If you use the software a lot and for years, you will pay much more for than the typical one time payment amount. I understand the need to generate money to fund ongoing development of the software, but, I'm oldschool really in terms of actual owning the software, opposed to just renting it.

How do you feel about subscription based plugins?