Can anything compete with DIVA or Repro in 2020?!

[chk071]

I bought it cheaper as well. But, it's definitely worth $99, when you compare it to other plugins. The Legend costs $99, so, why wouldn't this be worth $99?

Oh, I forgot. Basically, it's worth what it's worth for you. How nice is it that you have so many different dynamic prices that YOU can decide when it's worth it for you?

Anyway, Ploki is the super PA KVR hater no.1, so, I don't wonder about any of his comments here anymore. The question for me is just what's so damn important that he feels like commenting on software he's not even interested in. Ah well, I know the answer to that one as well.

[EnGee]

I just bought it! I mean bx_oberhausen. It is difficult to resist such a price! But yes, it sounds really good. It sounds punchier and more aggressive than SEM V2. Actually, it reminded me of another synth, so I loaded it, and Yes! They are really in the same group and feel close! The other synth is Korg ARP Odyssey.

[chk071]

I just bought it! I mean bx_oberhausen. It is difficult to resist such a price! But yes, it sounds really good. It sounds punchier and more aggressive than SEM V2. Actually, it reminded me of another synth

I didn't get a Oberheim vibe at all when I played with SEM V2's filter. It's sort of like with all their other emus: The modelling of the filter isn't up to par with the good emulations. The oscillator sound is right there with them. The filter just isn't.

[EnGee]

Yes, some of their synths I can't say they have a great filter (functional, maybe). Anyway they still have some very nice punchy and aggressive ones like the Matrix 12 V. I also like their Prophet V especially the combined one with VS.

[Scotty]

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Loving the core sound is enough to justify having a Juno 60 here.

But you can enjoy the core sound of any of your synths. Just because they are full of other features doesn't mean you have to use all that stuff. The patches I use most in Pigments, for example, are very much the "core sound" of one of the wavetables I particularly like, without much adornment beyond a dose of unison. Moreover, having owned an SH-101 for several years and a JU-06 for a while, I can't imagine the core sound of a Juno wouldn't be bettered by dozens of half-decent softsynths.

Getting mad at a frog because it isn't a tree doesn't make it a turd. Your critique doesn't consider how one relates to the instrument beyond your own use case scenarios. There is more than one way to approach this art form or value its tools.

[e-crooner]

What I don't like about Oberhausen judging from the GUI image is that it has those basic envelopes without Release stage. At the same time there is so much free space in the envelope section, just move the plugin's name somewhere else.

[chk071]

I know what you mean, but, actually, when using it, it's much less of a restriction as I always imagine. The only thing that really bothers me is that the decay stage of the filter envelope is the release stage at the same time. For the amp envelope, the 3 stages are alright for me.

[e-crooner]

Yes, in Diva one can at least choose which the envelope type to use.

The LFO1 knob only controls the rate?
And why are the osc waveform selectors in the filter section?

[4damind]

As Bones already mentioned, the Oberhausen is also very well suited for bass sounds because it has much more bottom end than e.g. the Arturia.
If you are in the mood to buy, you can also buy the new Softube Minimoog It sounds very good and yes (that's what this thread is all about)... better than the Minimoog in Diva.
(how it competes with the Legend is another question....)

[chk071]

The LFO1 knob only controls the rate?

Yeah. Also make sure that the TMT is turned off when you adjust the LFO rate, because it has a influence on the rate for every note, which is IMO much too extreme... with TMT turned off, the rate is consistent.

And why are the osc waveform selectors in the filter section?

Probably because those control the amount of signal going from the oscillators into the filter.

[chk071]

If you are in the mood to buy, you can also buy the new Softube Minimoog It sounds very good and yes (that's what this thread is all about)... better than the Minimoog in Diva.
(how it competes with the Legend is another question....)

I just demo'd it a bit. It's nice, but, not better than Monark for me. At least I really wouldn't know why I'd want to spend money on it, when I have Monark, plus the Reaktor modules.

Monark, Diva and Model 72 sound very close though, which is a good sign.

[Second Skin]

If you are in the mood to buy, you can also buy the new Softube Minimoog It sounds very good and yes (that's what this thread is all about)... better than the Minimoog in Diva.
(how it competes with the Legend is another question....)

Frank having heard both are you prepared to stick your neck out?

[4damind]

The Legend has the more interesting features like polyphony which makes the synth interesting for pads and other polyphonic sounds. Both are sounding different with the default settings... the Softube sounds more dynamic and has more saturation. But with the "Legend" you can adjust both drift and saturation. By default drift is set to "0" and I mean that the revision model is also set to "later" by default... if you adjust these parameters the difference is small.

[EnGee]

Model 72 looks interesting. Is it a cpu hog or friendly?
I noticed also another synth released by Softube. I'll try both and also the modules in Modular

[GRUMP]

I once had a Diva licence and sold it. There was simply nothing that I could do with it. Pure matter of tastes. I try to make very, very modern sounding electronic music, and imho everything that comes from Diva sounds 70's-80's. Am I using it wrong ? Then every single preset maker is, also, because every preset sounds like it could be used in music from the 70's-80's, or in synthwave. Is it wrong ? For sure not. I totally respect that. People who love analog era tend to love Diva : cool, great, we live in a great world where there is a product for everybody. My singer's favourite synth is Diva.

That´s funny. 70s/80s sounds good to me - but Diva doesn´t. It´s difficult to describe. Something about the Consistency. The "Color". The Frequency Balance. The 3D Position. You should maybe watch some Demos for Soundpacks (Luftfrum maybe), they´re mostly quiet "Post modern".

The 80s wouldn´t have been the 80s if they would´ve had the Diva - and Diva is definitely too clean. Diva. Duck Face in Pink Pantys. Our Gals were simply cute

(1:35 is nice)

But I do not respect people direspecting other people's tastes. The OP is either foolishly disrespectful or a shill. I think Urs needs nobody to help here, and judging from the OP's nickname, I assume this is simply a stupid question and that he should keep on $#iting his underwear instead of asking questions like that.

Probably a Kind of "poisoned Compliment". Expect the worst.

A discussion without any possible answer. No end. Absurdity at its finest...

Absured meany that something has no Sense and that is somehow disrespectful. I´d say we´re all just human and errare humanum est. And we can learn of it. It´s interesting to watch the Development.

BUMP