M8.6.28 beta

[liquidsound]

My reasoning was based on speculations that, for example, Ableton could not implement MPE because they had to rewrite the very core on the applications while MIDI 2 seems to be on their plate.

So if they can do without rewriting the deep aspect of the application then it’s probably not that drastic in terms of restructuring the DAW.

[MuTools]

It definitely are interesting evolutions and i'll study it more in depth at the appropriate r&d time after M9 is rocking and rolling. Thx for highlighting this.

[liquidsound]

It definitely are interesting evolutions and i'll study it more in depth at the appropriate r&d time after M9 is rocking and rolling. Thx for highlighting this.

MuLab

[FabBad]

Glad that those issue were solved!
But, while using the multisampla module, i noticed that the preview from the "keyboard preview" is still routing to output instead the preview rack.
I don't know, maybe is as it.
But, i like to know that all the previews goes to the same route.
Is that possible?
Thanks thanks thanks

[MuTools]

But, while using the multisampla module, i noticed that the preview from the "keyboard preview" is still routing to output instead the preview rack.

Thx for reporting this.
Will be fixed in the next update.

[FabBad]

Jo, i have been using Mulab for much more time lately and is better and better everyday, so i was stumbled with a couple of bugs;

-set interpolation mode is missing in the shorcut list
-there's a delay response in contextual menus
-pressing "e" on a midi or audio secuence in the stream view it hit the same edit shortcut as that is assigned to module in mux area
-similar to abobe, some shorcuts don't correspond to assigned view (see gif)

wrong shortcuts in wrong place.gif

-strange behavior when zooming in fullscreen (see gif 2)

strange behaviour in the redraw waveform on audio stream2.gif

-"drag parameter" doesn't works when it uses shortcuts (see gif 3)

drag parameter shortcut doesn't works.gif

and finally a aesthetic issue (LOW priority), the ruler level view is a bit unnecessary oversized

2020-09-30_005258.png

Thank you for your great work
Regards
FaB

[SparkySpark]

Wow, how much one can learn through reading this kind of thread!

Drag parameter was news to me. I'm thinking that since I can ctrl-drag an instrument or effect from one rack to another to duplicate it (a feature I use A LOT), ctrl-drag could perhaps also be used for, say, a volume fader., and perhaps in all sorts of places. So: same result as Drag parameter, but a tad quicker.

But maybe that conflicts with other stuff and it's not that important I guess, so no sweat!

[MuTools]

-set interpolation mode is missing in the shorcut list

That will be fixed in the next update.

-there's a delay response in contextual menus

Please elaborate, maybe with a video.

-pressing "e" on a midi or audio secuence in the stream view it hit the same edit shortcut as that is assigned to module in mux area
-similar to abobe, some shorcuts don't correspond to assigned view (see gif)
wrong shortcuts in wrong place.gif

If you use the same key for different shortcuts, but those shortcuts are both relevant in the context you're pressing that shortcut key, then indeed you can cause ambiguous situations.
For example in the example with the N = Edit in Audio Lab and N = Normalize, when you hit N on an audio part then both these functions are relevant, and but only one of them can be triggered.
In such case it's better to use different shortcut keys.

I'll reply on the other issues soon.

[MuTools]

-strange behavior when zooming in fullscreen (see gif 2)strange behaviour in the redraw waveform on audio stream2.gif

Please give me step by step how to repeat this.

-"drag parameter" doesn't works when it uses shortcuts (see gif 3)drag parameter shortcut doesn't works.gif

Will be fixed in the next update.

and finally a aesthetic issue (LOW priority), the ruler level view is a bit unnecessary oversized
2020-09-30_005258.png

It uses the same width as the piano keyboard in the midi sequence editor. This may be important when stacking editors vertically so that the time line is aligned.

Thanks for reporting those issue and for your constructive feedback

[FabBad]

-there's a delay response in contextual menus

Please elaborate, maybe with a video.

Delayed response 2020-10-01.7z

sometimes is worse 2020-10-01.7z

If you use the same key for different shortcuts, but those shortcuts are both relevant in the context you're pressing that shortcut key, then indeed you can cause ambiguous situations.

well, maybe i have to much assignations, would be nice a dupe detection, i don't know, highlighting the duplicates i guess..

-strange behavior when zooming in fullscreen (see gif 2)strange behaviour in the redraw waveform on audio stream2.gif

Please give me step by step how to repeat this.

I Said strange because is most common in fullscreen and the file must be long enough.

_Load a audiofile with lenght greater than 10 seconds aprox directly to audiostream
_zoom in and out and see that there's a one zoom view that the waveform disapears.

Also, when a load an another audio file with diferent sample rate (96KHz), it seems to reproduce the same issue, but, the other one is functioning normaly.

It uses the same width as the piano keyboard in the midi sequence editor. This may be important when stacking editors vertically so that the time line is aligned.

ahh, nice! it makes sense now.

Thanks Jo!

[FabBad]

Well, now in another project, suddenly the synths stop working and when i close the program it pops up a notice "Logged 2 errors".
Viewing the log file... i can see the "Error PEG[217]" in it.
What is it means?
thanks again

[MuTools]

-there's a delay response in contextual menus

Please elaborate, maybe with a video.

Delayed response 2020-10-01.7z
sometimes is worse 2020-10-01.7z

That's odd.
When does that happen?
Does it only happen in specific projects?
If it happens and you quit MuLab and reload the same project then is it still the same behavior?
If it happens in project X and when you then do New Project then is it still the same behavior?

-strange behavior when zooming in fullscreen (see gif 2)strange behaviour in the redraw waveform on audio stream2.gif

Ok, i could repeat a similar issue. Will look into it.

[MuTools]

Well, now in another project, suddenly the synths stop working and when i close the program it pops up a notice "Logged 2 errors".
Viewing the log file... i can see the "Error PEG[217]" in it.
What is it means?
thanks again

Could it be that you're using Parameter Event Generators that are sending out an extreme amount of events?

[FabBad]

When does that happen?

all the time.

Does it only happen in specific projects?

any project

If it happens and you quit MuLab and reload the same project then is it still the same behavior?

it persist from beginning and is there until i close the program.

If it happens in project X and when you then do New Project then is it still the same behavior?

Yes, the same behavior.
Even happends in MUX as a plugin in other hosts.

[MuTools]

I'm amazed that you say that it happens always as the first video you shared it seems to only happen in that second project window, not in the first. No?

Are you on windows or macos?

Are you using some special input device or a special setup?

Can you repeat the issue on another computer?

Is anyone else also encountering a delay when popping up context menus?