Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[martinjuenke]

Yeah, that's true. $32 minimum spend on a $25 voucher

Just a coincidence:
32$ is the amount of activating two second hand bought PA plugins...

I doubt anything PA do is a coincidence. I've certainly used the fact you outline a few times myself, my friend! I actually like PA's business model as it's really transparent. Also, they are clearly open to the second hand market and how they benefit from it.

We agree to agree

[biscuitdough]

(And regarding biscuitdough, yes it is chitchat but not misinformation. Indeed, serum is also not resellable. It is just something people might like to know before buying something. It might affect your decision to buy)

Context is key, and if you say "Serum is better than Sektor, you can't resell Sektor" without mentioning that you also can't resell Serum, you're misinforming by omission.

[Uncle E]

Just a coincidence:
32$ is the amount of activating two second hand bought PA plugins...

That's a very nice catch. I'll start looking for used PA plugins. $7 (after voucher) to transfer two isn't bad at all.

[Ploki]

or just do 4$ fixed license transfer fee and 29$ list prices like a normal person would

[leeleema]

or just do 4$ fixed license transfer fee and 29$ list prices like a normal person would

Not a single company uses those figures though. Perhaps in the socialist republic of Plokistan

[Ploki]

Not a single company uses those figures though. Perhaps in the socialist republic of Plokistan

Most companies also don't use 299$ list prices and 29$ constant discounts.

Also:
https://klevgrand.se
https://valhalladsp.com
https://klanghelm.com/contents/main.html
https://www.meldaproduction.com
https://www.voxengo.com
https://www.wavesfactory.com

there are more expensive like DMG, FabFilter, U-he, Softube, but they retain their list price most of the time - and also their resale price.

Most have occasional sales, usually never more than 50%, not 95% off.

Also most don't charge for license transfers at all.
And most listed aren't registered in the socialist republic of Plokistan.

On the flip side, show me a single company that does 95% discounts and charges 20$ for license transfer that's not waves

[martinjuenke]

On the flip side, show me a single company that does 95% discounts and charges 20$ for license transfer that's not waves

Plugin Alliance?

[Ploki]

On the flip side, show me a single company that does 95% discounts and charges 20$ for license transfer that's not waves

Plugin Alliance?

well, i kinda walked right into that one didn't i

[martinjuenke]

On the flip side, show me a single company that does 95% discounts and charges 20$ for license transfer that's not waves

Plugin Alliance?

well, i kinda walked right into that one didn't i

We all have our weak moments...

[leeleema]

Ha ha! Ploki, of course you're right about the high prices, they are ridiculous when the plug-ins are constantly on sale. But I'd sooner be able to buy at a cheap price and re-sell too, so I like them. Some companies, including some of the ones you mentioned, have high prices, poor sales and high transfer fees. So the only thing PA is getting wrong is their ludicrous RRP, which none of us here would pay anyway. The main thing for me is that some of their plugs are properly good and you can get them for a good price. On the same subject, the best business model I think is Valhalla's. So straight forward and they've stuck to it. No one feels like they're getting shafted. I always wonder what their annual profits are like, they must be millionaires Rodney!

[martinjuenke]

Ha ha! Ploki, of course you're right about the high prices, they are ridiculous when the plug-ins are constantly on sale. But I'd sooner be able to buy at a cheap price and re-sell too, so I like them. Some companies, including some of the ones you mentioned, have high prices, poor sales and high transfer fees. So the only thing PA is getting wrong is their ludicrous RRP, which none of us here would pay anyway. The main thing for me is that some of their plugs are properly good and you can get them for a good price. On the same subject, the best business model I think is Valhalla's. So straight forward and they've stuck to it. No one feels like they're getting shafted. I always wonder what their annual profits are like, they must be millionaires Rodney!

No, Sean drives an old Datsun afaik...

[martinjuenke]

And Dirk drives Lamborghini...

[leeleema]

And Dirk drives Lamborghini...

[leeleema]

The question is what does that Steven Slate chap drive?

[Ploki]

The question is what does that Steven Slate chap drive?

his own sense of accomplishment

Some companies, including some of the ones you mentioned, have high prices, poor sales and high transfer fees. So the only thing PA is getting wrong is their ludicrous RRP, which none of us here would pay anyway. The main thing for me is that some of their plugs are properly good and you can get them for a good price. On the same subject, the best business model I think is Valhalla's. So straight forward and they've stuck to it. No one feels like they're getting shafted. I always wonder what their annual profits are like, they must be millionaires Rodney!

Voxengo guy is a millionaire, and there are no transfer fees and fair prices