KVR Audio

Jopmanajop · Post by **Jopmanajop** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:58 pm

Markus speaks about Vanguard in this thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=544846&start=195
It's just one little post though

FigBug · Post by **FigBug** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:00 pm

DocSnyder wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:44 pm And since the refx flop all faith in them is gone.

What is the flop?

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:02 pm

FigBug wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:00 pm
DocSnyder wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:44 pm And since the refx flop all faith in them is gone.
What is the flop?

Give it a few years. Happens to the best of us.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:06 pm

I wonder too though. What flop?

Magnut · Post by **Magnut** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:11 pm

I guess the big "we announce Vanguard2 in several newsletters etc over a big period of time and then just discontinue all products besides Nexus". Or the "we have delayed the Nexus3 release because it did not meet our quality standards" and 2 weeks after release it has been v3.0.11 and still not clos to being stable or so. Could also be the big "we shutdown all critics, even bug reports in a big choleric manner"

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:43 am

i think VANGUARD2 would be well received in the saturated VA market.
i still use and love VANGUARD x32

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:42 am

Soundplex wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:29 pm
cryophonik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:23 pm I'd only be interested if they keep the characteristic sound of the original, but with a more modern UI and feature set. Not so much if it's just another "me too" VA.
Wasn't the problem with Vanguard2 it has originally been coded by the Tone2 founder who left refx? If so, I doubt it will sound the same or even close.

I did code the audio-engines for reFX Vanguard, reFX JunoX, reFX PlastiCZ and reFX Slayer. reFX licensed my code and I received payments for it.
Please note that I never was responsible for the business-side, customer-relationship or marketing of reFX. I am also not involved into Nexus.

I founded Tone2, since reFX refused to release Tone2 FilterBank and FireBird. They had secretly started to work on Nexus with Vengeance.

Some months ago reFX licensed my old audio-DSP-code for Vanguard2. The rest of the product is done by reFX. I expect that it will sound very similar and be downward compatible.
So far I have not seen the product itself, that's why I don't know more about it. According to Eva the product is close to being finished.

Biome_Digital · Post by **Biome_Digital** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:09 am

Interested to see it released.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

Thanks so much for the update, Markus! Glad to see that your Vanguard legacy lives on!

SneakyBeats · Post by **SneakyBeats** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:10 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:42 am I did code the audio-engines for reFX Vanguard, reFX JunoX, reFX PlastiCZ and reFX Slayer.

Explains why they sounded so nice

mike_the_ranger · Post by **mike_the_ranger** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:23 pm

Tone2 > reFX

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:37 am

Would love to see a v2 of Claw

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:07 am

Thanks for the update, Markus! You have done a fabulous job with those synths.

Vanguard 2 release will be quite nostalgic. It is one of the first synths I tried when I started with music production, loved it, but unfortunately could not afford/buy it. Perhaps I will be able to now.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:08 am

Yeah one of the first i tried aswell. Great synth.

dermichl · Post by **dermichl** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:30 am

So if they really release a Version 2 will this give them new chances to scam people in the long run?!

reFX Vanguard 2?