Ovox Vocal Resynthesis vs. Izotope Vocalsynth 2?

[Luigispotato]

Thank you very much guys. I will of course demo both of them but as Tj Shredder said you cant get into more complicated stuff in demo time so I have just asked opinions from long-time users. Thanks again.

[Luigispotato]

Sounds better doesn't tell much, I can make anything sound good and better.
Which one is more interesting would tell more but not much either. Being concrete with tips what is interesting, and those who have both, what does one do the other can't, is useful information...

Of course, so which one do you think is better for lead vocals? I am not a good singer but I would like to sing some parts for my songs. Which one would you choose for this particular case.

[Tj Shredder]

I don't have any of those but was watching out - that is why I am reading this thread. My interest is more the experimental stuff one could do with it...

[Ploki]

Sounds better doesn't tell much, I can make anything sound good and better.
Which one is more interesting would tell more but not much either. Being concrete with tips what is interesting, and those who have both, what does one do the other can't, is useful information...

Of course, so which one do you think is better for lead vocals? I am not a good singer but I would like to sing some parts for my songs. Which one would you choose for this particular case.

they're both designed for lead vocals first - so either will do the job

[Ah_Dziz]

Sounds better doesn't tell much, I can make anything sound good and better.
Which one is more interesting would tell more but not much either. Being concrete with tips what is interesting, and those who have both, what does one do the other can't, is useful information...

Of course, so which one do you think is better for lead vocals? I am not a good singer but I would like to sing some parts for my songs. Which one would you choose for this particular case.

Depending on the genre, either could be great on lead vocals. If you don’t already have an autotuning effect with formant correction, I would say go with vocalsynth. Ovox to me is ideal for making more music that fits with your track out of existing vocals, drum tracks, or mono parts, or for adding nifty vocal harmonies.
Vocalsynth is more of a vocal processor that can tune up your main vocal and add some nice effects to spice it up. The amount of overlap (aside from the bottom row of effects) is pretty heavy, while not using the same terminology for things. The effects at the bottom of VS are kind of similar to many things you will already have with your daw.

You should go ahead and demo both though on something that you already have written to see which one gets you where you want to go in a manner that you like.

The things that I find unique and useful that Ovox does and VS does not are, using the overall amp, formant, and pitch of the input as freely assignable mod sources, and the ability to trigger anything from a single note to a giant chord depending on the input note. In my use case I often use a real-time pitch corrector before the input to Ovox so that triggering these harmonies, pitches and stacks are more simple.

Now that VS2 is on crazy sale, I may go ahead and grab it as well, as there is always a use for something you may not expect. I have had lots of fun running non vocal sounds through all the “vocal processors”.
If you don’t already have one, grab MAutopitch, or grab waves Tune RT on one of their many sales. These two are my favorite “real-time” pitch correction plugins and they can do lots of fun things before you get to the weirder vocal processing.

Also if you’re looking for interesting vocal manipulation plugins, take a look at Manipulator from polyverse/ Infected Mushroom. It allows for freely playing your input signal with midi and has a simple but crazy modulation system that lets you play with all the fun FM features and such.

I am a fool for making things that aren’t “vocal like” out of vocals and vice versa though.

All that being said, I would still recommend Ovox over VS2 if you can only get one. The prerequisite being that the price works for you, and that you have plenty of cpu power. It will give (IMO) the best and most versatile results, while you can make up for the entire “post fx” system from VS with free stuff and things from your DAW.

JJ

[Ploki]

If you don’t already have an autotuning effect with formant correction, I would say go with vocalsynth.
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Vocalsynth is more of a vocal processor that can tune up your main vocal and add some nice effects to spice it up. The amount of overlap (aside from the bottom row of effects) is pretty heavy, while not using the same terminology for things. The effects at the bottom of VS are kind of similar to many things you will already have with your daw.
JJ

No really, have you even used Vocalsynth?

Autotuning is the least of what Vocalsynth does, it's literally one knob and scale on the interface.
I literally never use Vocalsynth as means of "Tuning up main vocal and adding some nice effects" - that's Nectar 3

It has more synthesis methods than Ovox, but absolutely lacks modulation at which Ovox absolutely excels...
Vocalsynth is a VOCODER first and foremost, and is more similar to MVocoder than MAutoPitch.
So you can absolutely trigger full chords, it just needs MIDI input, since chord in auto-mode is less flexible than in Ovox. But this is again, modulation section - which is great in Ovox.

[chk071]

I would like to make lead vocals with it (Daft Punk, 24K Magic intro, ..).

I think the OP is rather looking for a vocoder indeed.

[robearlyii]

I, too, want to try OVOX. I have Vocalsynth 2 and I haven't been able to get very good results.

[simon.a.billington]

If you don’t already have an autotuning effect with formant correction, I would say go with vocalsynth.
...
Vocalsynth is more of a vocal processor that can tune up your main vocal and add some nice effects to spice it up. The amount of overlap (aside from the bottom row of effects) is pretty heavy, while not using the same terminology for things. The effects at the bottom of VS are kind of similar to many things you will already have with your daw.
JJ

No really, have you even used Vocalsynth?

Autotuning is the least of what Vocalsynth does, it's literally one knob and scale on the interface.
I literally never use Vocalsynth as means of "Tuning up main vocal and adding some nice effects" - that's Nectar 3

It has more synthesis methods than Ovox, but absolutely lacks modulation at which Ovox absolutely excels...
Vocalsynth is a VOCODER first and foremost, and is more similar to MVocoder than MAutoPitch.
So you can absolutely trigger full chords, it just needs MIDI input, since chord in auto-mode is less flexible than in Ovox. But this is again, modulation section - which is great in Ovox.

Yeah I have to agree. Although VocalSynth is well laid out if you’re going after a classic kind of sound. Whereas Ovox ups the ante a bit more and taking it beyond the classic sound into something new.

Both have their strengths, it’s really a question of what you need from a VocalSynth... or just get both. Especially at the kind of crazy sales price you find them on these days.

[Ploki]

Yeah I have to agree. Although VocalSynth is well laid out if you’re going after a classic kind of sound. Whereas Ovox ups the ante a bit more and taking it beyond the classic sound into something new.

Both have their strengths, it’s really a question of what you need from a VocalSynth... or just get both. Especially at the kind of crazy sales price you find them on these days.

i agree, they complement each other imo. Different strengths - Ovox has much more strength in modulation section and FX compared to VocalSynth, but VocalSynth has more tweakibility of separate FX.

For pure vocoding, i recently started favoring Melda MVocoder due to flexibility

[h66]

OVOX "fans": is there a thread here about Ovox? My results with Ovox are ...not good. Dont fit in the mix, sounds "unnaturally", but not in a good way.

[Ploki]

OVOX "fans": is there a thread here about Ovox? My results with Ovox are ...not good. Dont fit in the mix, sounds "unnaturally", but not in a good way.

tbh often issue with VocalSynth and pretty much most of synthetic vocal processors.. Try pre-prepping the vocals you feed it - roll off the highs, de-ess heavily, notch 2-6k heavily, hi-pass sharply at fundamental of the voice, then EQ the output as well (usually it's build up in the mids, and in the high-mids)

[h66]

make sense, thanks

[c_voltage]

Ovox sounds better and has all the fun modulations. Vocalsynth uses less cpu with less flexibility. Both are handy. Since I already have Ovox and many things that cover the ground that vocalsynth does, I didn’t bother past the demo.

Izotope's Vocalsynth is less cpu ? C'mon

[Ah_Dziz]

It is on my my system. Don't know what else to say.