D16 Group Spacerek - a new reverb

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leeleema wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:22 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 am Who's Ritchie? And what are you talking about? :o
What, you don't know who Ritchie is? :D
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evo2slo wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:42 pm There are very few reverbs that allow you to position different sound sources in different locations within a space. With a traditional reverb the early reflections will react the same with each source sound. The sense of location is much more realistic and natural sounding when early reflections differ depending on where the instrument is located within the room, otherwise it sounds like they stacked up on top of each other in the same spot - very unnatural. I currently use Acon Verberate Immersive for placing separate sources in different positions within a room.

I am excited for Spacerek, as it seems to have changeable speaker source locations, so by keeping the mic locations the same and changing the speaker locations to where in the space the sources should be located, highly realistic and natural reverbs may be possible. Looking forward to trying this!
I use VCV Rack Sound Stage for that though it is a hassle to use as VCV Rack isn’t currently available in plugin form.

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leeleema wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:22 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 am Who's Ritchie? And what are you talking about? :o
What, you don't know who Ritchie is? :D
I only know a Richie, but, that can't be him. :)


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chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:35 pm
leeleema wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:22 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 am Who's Ritchie? And what are you talking about? :o
What, you don't know who Ritchie is? :D
I only know a Richie, but, that can't be him. :)

Poor old Richie. He never stood a chance. He got what was coming to him, mind

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:17 pm
evo2slo wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:42 pm There are very few reverbs that allow you to position different sound sources in different locations within a space. With a traditional reverb the early reflections will react the same with each source sound. The sense of location is much more realistic and natural sounding when early reflections differ depending on where the instrument is located within the room, otherwise it sounds like they stacked up on top of each other in the same spot - very unnatural. I currently use Acon Verberate Immersive for placing separate sources in different positions within a room.

I am excited for Spacerek, as it seems to have changeable speaker source locations, so by keeping the mic locations the same and changing the speaker locations to where in the space the sources should be located, highly realistic and natural reverbs may be possible. Looking forward to trying this!
I use VCV Rack Sound Stage for that though it is a hassle to use as VCV Rack isn’t currently available in plugin form.
Wow that looks great! Too bad it's only in VCV, but thanks for the link.

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chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42 am
Halonmusic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:31 am d16 has some quality products so im sure Spacerek is going to sound great. I only have Frontier and Antresol (great flanger!) but they do have a distinct sound dont they?
Their synths definitely do. Phoscyon and LuSH-101 share some similarities in the sound of filter resonance, for example.

Their plugins are, in general, bit of a mixed bag. Some are really nice (Toraverb, Redoptor, Devastor), while some are so-so really. I never was a fan of their delays, for example, and I also find the phasers (Fazortan and Godfazer) and the chorus rather mediocre.
An opposing view: the D16 chorus (Syntorus 2) is one of the best on the market, as is Fazortan as far as phasers go (I don't have Godfazer). Toraverb has always been surprisingly good for the $, and Tekturon is amazing when you want a lot of taps in a delay. Decimort2 continues to be one of the best bitcrushers. Devastor and Redopter are very good, but I admit I don't use them as much after getting BlueCats Destructor, Saturn2, and the hardware Erica Synths Acidbox 3. I also have never really used Antresol very much.

In other words, I believe D16 provides a consistently high standard of excellence across their Silver line. If you're a musician making electronic music, and you want to get started with a large collection of quality effects, buying the Silver line bundle is a great option when it's on sale - you can't go wrong, and, while you may eventually demote some of them in favor of others, it's not like there's anything "wrong" with them.

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I agree with this, I think D16 are really consistent in terms of being excellent quality; I own most of the above plug-ins. YMMV

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D16 effects are very high quality, their phasor / chorus / bitcrusher are all among the best out there.....

...but that said, they promised an update to LuSH-101 like 8 years ago, and it still hasn't come, and that kinda pisses me off. It's an under-rated, fantastic sounding synth, but has areas that absolutely could use improvement...and they just abandoned it instead.

It's just frustrating when a company only dedicates themselves to generating new products instead of ironing out the issues with the old ones. The worst offender is of course FXpansion who literally just discontinued everything (they were bought-out, I know, but still, it sucks), but D16 is one of those companies where instead of getting a simple update with bugfixes, you get a whole new product you have to buy instead.

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How would you update it? For me, two things: improve CPU usage and have a master filter

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I was more eager when I thought it was a creative reverb. I don't have that much use for another room verb. on the other hand as some others have said, d16 make consistently excellent plugins, so if the intro price is right,...

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leeleema wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:07 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:35 pm
leeleema wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:22 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 am Who's Ritchie? And what are you talking about? :o
What, you don't know who Ritchie is? :D
I only know a Richie, but, that can't be him. :)

Poor old Richie. He never stood a chance. He got what was coming to him, mind
Yep. :)

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:31 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42 am
Halonmusic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:31 am d16 has some quality products so im sure Spacerek is going to sound great. I only have Frontier and Antresol (great flanger!) but they do have a distinct sound dont they?
Their synths definitely do. Phoscyon and LuSH-101 share some similarities in the sound of filter resonance, for example.

Their plugins are, in general, bit of a mixed bag. Some are really nice (Toraverb, Redoptor, Devastor), while some are so-so really. I never was a fan of their delays, for example, and I also find the phasers (Fazortan and Godfazer) and the chorus rather mediocre.
An opposing view: the D16 chorus (Syntorus 2) is one of the best on the market, as is Fazortan as far as phasers go (I don't have Godfazer). Toraverb has always been surprisingly good for the $, and Tekturon is amazing when you want a lot of taps in a delay. Decimort2 continues to be one of the best bitcrushers. Devastor and Redopter are very good, but I admit I don't use them as much after getting BlueCats Destructor, Saturn2, and the hardware Erica Synths Acidbox 3. I also have never really used Antresol very much.

In other words, I believe D16 provides a consistently high standard of excellence across their Silver line. If you're a musician making electronic music, and you want to get started with a large collection of quality effects, buying the Silver line bundle is a great option when it's on sale - you can't go wrong, and, while you may eventually demote some of them in favor of others, it's not like there's anything "wrong" with them.
Strangely my Chorus Presets in Godfazer beat everything I did in Syntorus. Godfazer is really amazing and endlessly versatile. Lately checked the Sound against AA N4 and was once again positively surprised.

Those two plus Tricerachorus and former Problems are gone. Antresol can Chorus, too btw.

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Love the D16 stuff and this looks very cool and intuitive. I decided a while ago that I'll never need another reverb, but may have to make an exception for this one.
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Just to be fair; LuSH-101 was released about 7 Years ago, with a last Update in 2015. Still a long Time and hopefully they will maintenance this excellent Synth. But also have to agree, as their Drummachine - Boxes really seem to be abandoned for now, which is a pity as those also were pretty decent.
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