Serum & what else?

[Psuper]

Sadly, everyone takes everything personally around here. It's very annoying. I think ANA 2 is very under-rated and cheap for the sound quality if offers. I haven't had much experience with Rapid but I doubt you'd go wrong with either.

Nah mate, when you go around calling everyone a c_*t or whatever other creative noun you spew in the middle of your drunken return home from pubbin with nothing better to do, you attempt to make it personal.

Anyone with a reasonable sense of self awareness and interpersonal skills in life has a strong tenancy to utilize those skills even when typing words to an unknown audience in a relatively anonymous medium. You're no victim, certainly aren't surprised at peoples reactions, and unlikely to care one way or the other.

[BONES]

You do understand that no-one is going to the pub at the moment, right? So sorry, no alcohol impairment you can write it off to, I'm afraid. It's just a different opinion to your own and unless you can refute it directly, then you are just going to have to accept that I'm right and you're wrong, just as I would accept that I was wrong if you were able to present evidence to show it.

It isn't already, just became 98 pounds instead of 49. That's almost the Hive territory.

Finally. ANA 2 has been at $49 forever. I'd definitely choose it over Hive if they were the same price. I think it sounds a lot better. It has a pristine, clean sound that wouldn't normally be my thing, except it also has some great distortion algorithms you can use to dirty it up as much (or as little) as you like.

in the mix of a full track, you can't tell which synth was used on every single sound. That's the nature of a mix, even beginners are nowing that!

So why obsess over individual sounds and the "proper" instrument you must use to make them? In the context of the purpose of synthesisers, the one and only thing they were made to do, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I read much posts from you here and it's a shame, that after over 20 years you're still posting such crap! But it's great entertainment!

Given that you have just agreed completely with me, what does that make your contribution?

[clipnotic]

You do understand that no-one is going to the pub at the moment, right? So sorry, no alcohol impairment you can write it off to, I'm afraid. It's just a different opinion to your own and unless you can refute it directly, then you are just going to have to accept that I'm right and you're wrong, just as I would accept that I was wrong if you were able to present evidence to show it.

It isn't already, just became 98 pounds instead of 49. That's almost the Hive territory.

Finally. ANA 2 has been at $49 forever. I'd definitely choose it over Hive if they were the same price. I think it sounds a lot better. It has a pristine, clean sound that wouldn't normally be my thing, except it also has some great distortion algorithms you can use to dirty it up as much (or as little) as you like.

in the mix of a full track, you can't tell which synth was used on every single sound. That's the nature of a mix, even beginners are nowing that!

So why obsess over individual sounds and the "proper" instrument you must use to make them? In the context of the purpose of synthesisers, the one and only thing they were made to do, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I read much posts from you here and it's a shame, that after over 20 years you're still posting such crap! But it's great entertainment!

Given that you have just agreed completely with me, what does that make your contribution?

I'm from Bavaria in Germany and here we don't need a pub for trinking beer, here we have big fridges full of beer every time, because it's staple food here! I live next to one of the biggest beer shops here ..

And well, you got a point with the "individual sounds" thing, that kills my argument a little bit like yours before, but you also know, that every synth sounds different, because you also use several of them or not?

That also depends on the music you're making. If I make a main room trance tracks I have much layers, but if I make some filigree Electro, DnB or IDM stuff, you hear every single sound through the mix.

And that's still a "big ball" discussion, because you absolutely know that I'm right!

[drdriller]

Serum filters are by far superior to Sylenth one.. sylenth1 filters are really basics..

Interesting, how opinions can differ. But let me put my statement on some concrete examples. Just take the patch at startup from sylenth: Arp 303 Saw

Show me how to do it in Serum to sound better!

To spare you some work I can send you my attempt. How can it be improved to exceed Sylenth's sound quality?

ARP Acid 303.fxp.zip

I am curious.

i made a first attempt to copy the patch, not so good but i can sure get closer with more work on the filter automation and maybe the midi, it's also hard to copy the random lfo in the patch, i'll improve later.

i'm just a geek who like synth so if a pro want to make a try it could be fun.

[chk071]

A 303 definitely can do the 303 sound better than Sylenth1.

[clipnotic]

A 303 definitely can do the 303 sound better than Sylenth1.

If you want the puristic 303 sound, you're right, but if you want that processed Acid stuff, Sylenth can do this very good!

[chk071]

I can imagine. Sylenth1 lends itself to more aggressive, punchy sounds.

[clipnotic]

I can imagine. Sylenth1 lends itself to more aggressive, punchy sounds.

Sylenth is an allrounder, it can sound hard, warm, soft, wide ... I'm a Sylenth fanboy

But it has only the typical VA features, so it can't do everything

EDIT:
And it has very snappy envelopes and this you'll here evertime, except you're sidechaining that sounds too much!

[Tricky-Loops]

I'm from Bavaria in Germany and here we don't need a pub for trinking beer, here we have big fridges full of beer every time, because it's staple food here!

We're never Sylenth because beer is our Serum!


(writes Tricky-Loops while drinking a glass of Silvaner wine from Franken.)

[clipnotic]

I'm from Bavaria in Germany and here we don't need a pub for trinking beer, here we have big fridges full of beer every time, because it's staple food here!

We're never Sylenth because beer is our Serum!


(writes Tricky-Loops while drinking a glass of Silvaner wine from Franken.)

Wine from Franken is very good, I live in the Franken metropolis Nuremberg!

[Echoes in the Attic]

I never got that into the sound of Serum, though the workflow looks nice. ANA2 though for me is one of the best sounding synths around. It has a grit and bite that is somehow warm at the same time as being sharp and cutting. Can sound very analog and very digital. I never get that cold feeling like I do with Serum and even Rapid (although both can sound great and do have nice filters etc.). Can't explain it, I just like what I like. When it comes to these wavetable synths I also like Icarus, though it's different. Very smooth, hard to make it sound harsh. Like most tone2 can be a bit plasticky and almost too smooth but so easy to make it work. Those would probably be my top wavetable synths for sound, and Harmor too, but I've never been that into the design.

[chk071]

I'm from Bavaria in Germany and here we don't need a pub for trinking beer, here we have big fridges full of beer every time, because it's staple food here!

We're never Sylenth because beer is our Serum!

Bavaria has all the good stuff.

[clipnotic]

Bavaria has all the good stuff.

Yes, but Franken is the elite of Bavaria, that's really important here!

[chk071]

I have no horse in that race, but, I trust your assessment.

[glokraw]

I'm from Bavaria in Germany and here we don't need a pub for trinking beer, here we have big fridges full of beer every time, because it's staple food here!

We're never Sylenth because beer is our Serum!

Bavaria has all the good stuff.

I got to drive my Dad's BMW Bavaria sometimes,
Hard to imagine a finer all-round touring car...
wish they would do a retro production run, all analog, of course