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emid wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:34 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:20 pm
Does anyone know how to escalate the issue further? Their phone support is down and I am totally helpless.
I have used Paypal twitter in the past as someone recommended it. They took less time to reply compared to the idiotic paypal chat support where two representatives will have two different opinions. In my case Paypal Twitter gave me relevant information regarding my account with detailed insight but my case was specialised like paypal credit so they directed me to the right people. In general it was helpful. Try and see what they can do for you.
A big thanks for this suggestion. :) It solved my problem in just 1 day and finally today I received the refund on my card. I wish I had posted this here a lot earlier. It took almost 3 months to get the refund from the date of first transaction/payment and 2 months after case getting closed in my favour. Don't know what the f**k the guys on chat were doing, because it seemed like the simplest thing in the world. So much wasted time and energy for me!

I really appreciate your help. :hug:

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LoveEnigma18 wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:14 pm
emid wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:34 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:20 pm
Does anyone know how to escalate the issue further? Their phone support is down and I am totally helpless.
I have used Paypal twitter in the past as someone recommended it. They took less time to reply compared to the idiotic paypal chat support where two representatives will have two different opinions. In my case Paypal Twitter gave me relevant information regarding my account with detailed insight but my case was specialised like paypal credit so they directed me to the right people. In general it was helpful. Try and see what they can do for you.
A big thanks for this suggestion. :) It solved my problem in just 1 day and finally today I received the refund on my card. I wish I had posted this here a lot earlier. It took almost 3 months to get the refund from the date of first transaction/payment and 2 months after case getting closed in my favour. Don't know what the f**k the guys on chat were doing, because it seemed like the simplest thing in the world. So much wasted time and energy for me!

I really appreciate your help. :hug:
I’m glad I was able to help mate. :tu:

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jancivil wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 6:38 pm Fee is 2.9% + $.30 per transaction. So the $40 is ~$38.50 for me or $41.50 for the buyer.

really? ^^ so PP take 7%. wow. never knew that. smart. i guess its still better than a credit card company %10 to %15 if you pay late.
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Wow.

They make out on the currency exchange, like a bandit.
Now I frequently use it to buy things (dollars: dollars, 1:1) just to make them earn it. I'm kind of stuck with them if I transact for certain things, just now I had to have it for the GSi-201 update purchase, again they determine the actual exchange rate. VSL likes it for certain transactions I have with them. If it's money coming to me, it's Paypal. They have the power.

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from what i have seen during these few past weeks , don't do a deal with a guy who only replie with an iphone , the connection is routed to apple server and provide an US ip . Ask a real mail exchange but not a mail send with an iphone.
learn to tracer the connection and try to google it.

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how come Hivkorn got banned?
:borg:

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by requesting it ;)

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V0RT3X wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:12 am how come Hivkorn got banned?
not so banned ;)

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Three banned users in this page alone. What's going on here?

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vskunk wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:21 am
V0RT3X wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:12 am how come Hivkorn got banned?
not so banned ;)
So was that Hivkorn? Or did his account get hacked. :?

Very odd, that he got banned. I did business with him a while back and he did good business with me.
:borg:

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What happened to Leo007? Shows he was banned, too?

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June61944 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:27 am What happened to Leo007? Shows he was banned, too?
I've just bought Reaktor from him on Vi-control. He explained that he got banned for having two accounts. I'm very surprised that they banned him without warning though, he was very great to deal with every time and he even had items in the member charity auction. :? :shrug: As for the others I have no idea, that's definitely a bit strange.

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Yes, I bought a few items from Leo - great guy - and my initial reaction to seeing him banned was "should I be worried because of that?" It would be good to know why these things happen just in case licenses were compromised so one can prepare or investigate further.

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I do think the sell & buy subforum is just one part of this quite big forum. There are multiple possible sources of banning, and the double account is a common reason across multiple web forums (although some allow it as long as mods are notified by the user. This is useful when you are multiple members of a house to use the forum).
What is also common for forums is often the banning reasons to stay private, in a mod/banner user relationship, unless there is some publicly known offending behiaviour. This is respectful to the banned users, and to the mods timetable.

So, my point is when there is no scam, i don't think we can ask the mods if all is ok with one or another banned user.
I can't imagine the quantity of weekly banned users, but i think we should have some consideration to the time spent by the mods to handle the forum.

This is my servile opinion although i'm quite fresh in here 😁

And... Also bought from leo 😂, great transaction !

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I just wanted to say I had good experience with Hivkorn outside this forum. I was connected to him through Facebook. Neither that account nor his E-Mail were throwaways. The E-Mail was the one he used for all kinds of music stuff and it also connected to his KVR Account. He told me that he asked for his account to be locked the first time, not sure what happened after. But considering how transparent and easy to research he was I wouldn't worry.

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