Ableton tricks and tips

[liquidsound]

Are Wavelab and Spectral Layers a part of Cubase? I've liked Ableton Live's audio features, but I've looked at Wavelab and Spectral Layers (I sometimes use Audacity to edit instead of Live). What edge does Cubase have here?

No that. I mean simple things, like you can see here for example:

There are multiple ways to do this in Live: group tracks, create a send, copy and paste. What am I missing?

Yes, you are. Like those simple things:

Are you serious?
You can go FOREVER comparing DAW and still prove nothing.
Just name your personal issues that you REALLY NEED to produce and if they are not there what’s the point to even mention them in a Tips thread

I understand your having good time though

[Aloysius]

Ableton trick or treat

[Dirtgrain]

No that. I mean simple things, like you can see here for example:

I did not notice much that I don't do with Live. I don't know if Live has a normalize option for audio. The guy deleted part of an audio clip and have the part of it to the right shift over (not sure if Live does this--but I don't feel like I'm missing out). Tabbing to jump to transients is cool, but I just use the right arrow keys (works if transients fall on the grid lines). I did not notice warping options. I appreciate seeing how other DAWs do it, but is Live really lacking here?

[Dirtgrain]

Did find this from 2010:

the 'consolidate' command performs a normalization as part of its function

however it also captures the output of the warp engine as the new audio file. so it would be a deal breaker if you had active warping, e.g. you had placed or moved any markers, changed the set tempo after recording, or had the clip in complex or complex pro mode, etc.

if you have recorded a clip and not changed the tempo, and your default mode is beats, repitch (preferably, or even tones or texture) you'd be OK

[Dirtgrain]

There are multiple ways to do this in Live: group tracks, create a send, copy and paste. What am I missing?

Yes, you are. Like those simple things:

That is not "adding same plugin to several tracks at once." It is a button that turns off/on all of the plugins you have added. It could be a useful time saver.

[liquidsound]

It all comes to how many times I really need to shut down everything.
I can select all my sends at once and mute.
For all tracks inserts no way around it but if that’s my mixing style I better group my effects in each track and turn off the group.
100 tracks? Problems....

But is this your consistent workflow?
Change DAW.

[revvy]

My own tip for the OP...

It's basically what I said in 1st reply, so not really your own

Your infantile comments never cease to depress.

Your reply was "herp derp, allow me to post first in an Ableton thread by promoting BW as I cannot stop myself but if you must use Live then freeze tracks ". With the obligatory 'only jowkeeng' emoji. Just like every single time. I suppose we should be grateful you kept your political beliefs to your Tweets this time.

Mine was beware of getting stuck in Session.

[antic604]

No that. I mean simple things, like you can see here for example:

I did not notice much that I don't do with Live.

I'm not saying Live is missing all or most of those features. I'm saying it's much easier to do those things in Studio One. That's called workflow or QoL features.

I - or you - we can do "comping" in Bitwig or Live, but it's ridiculously convoluted compared to most DAWs.

[antic604]

There are multiple ways to do this in Live: group tracks, create a send, copy and paste. What am I missing?

Yes, you are. Like those simple things:

That is not "adding same plugin to several tracks at once." It is a button that turns off/on all of the plugins you have added. It could be a useful time saver.

Yes, I couldn't quickly find a video for that, just wanted to showcase a principle - you select multiple tracks and can do same thing to several instances of the same plugin at once. Sure, in many cases this can be walked around by busses or sends; but in many it can't.

And again, I'm not saying you can't reach the end-result in Live. You definitely can, but it takes many more steps, which is what "workflow features" are for.

[antic604]

Just name your personal issues that you REALLY NEED to produce and if they are not there what’s the point to even mention them in a Tips thread

This whole fork of discussion here started, after @Rivanni suggested that Bitwig users always cry they don't get "workflow updates", implying as if Live was any different. I'm just showing that - compared to Cubase, S1, Logic, etc. - we're both in the same camp, and thus his implication was wrong.

I'm NOT saying I personally need comping, or ARA2 or notation, or ability to insert several plugins at once. But those things are either not there, or can be achieved in convoluted and laborious ways. I'm just stating the obvious facts. Other than alias/linked clips (that Live doesn't have either, BTW) Bitwig does pretty much all I need.

[antic604]

Lol, is someone running a script that downvotes everything I post

[tooneba]

Ableton brigade is coming at you!

[antic604]

Ableton brigade is coming at you!

[PieBerger]

Regarding the multiple plugins argument, adding tracks to a bus is not a viable alternative where adding console emu plugins for example, is concerned. The whole idea is that the combined effect of saturation and other non linearities summed per channel is decidedly different from bussing those same channels and adding the same plugin/s to the summed signal. One workaround would be to save said plugins on the default template for audio tracks and I do this already with HornetVU for gainstaging but I don't like the idea of having multiple deactivated plugins on every single audio track I create in my projects, just in case I need them, it's messy. This is would be a simple QoL addition, that wouldn't otherwise compromise the overall function and direction of the DAW, unlike say completely revamping the mix console to bring it more in line with the Cubase/Logic/S1 et al, like some users have been requesting. Personally, I don't want to Live to become a behemoth like those other DAWs, I just want relatively minor enhancements that fit with Live's core ethos of being a fast and intuitive DAW, that doesn't get in the way of the creative process.

[antic604]

Another good tip - avoid M4L devices (viewtopic.php?f=7&p=7920383#p7920383)