TDR version of the Molot compressor is out - Molotok (free) and Molot GE
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- KVRist
- 414 posts since 15 Nov, 2012 from New Zealand
Love love the ugly green
But I liked the lighter ugly green because it was uglier
But I liked the lighter ugly green because it was uglier
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- KVRian
- 919 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
I tend to use Nova to cut resonances and Slick EQ to boost.fese wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:15 pmThe "problem" for me is just that the free variants are pretty much all I need, I rarely have the urge to buy the GE versions (except Slick EQ) which mostly add features that are too complicated me... I prefer plugins with a limited parameter set that are simple and fast to use. The Molot GE kinda scares me
On Nova the 2 extra bands are handy, and the feature where it learns the audio input and matches resonances is a time saver to get you started.
Then on all plugins the equal loudness workflow is another time saver that helps make good (or at least reasonable) decisions faster.
The free variants are certainly generous, which is what drove me to buy the bundle on the last sale. Now it is 20€ cheaper and including Molot on Audiodeluxe . With those 120$(101€) you can have all your EQ and Compressor needs covered.
WRT the GUI, in my case I'd have preferred a white VU on Molot it's not a big deal. It is readable.
- KVRAF
- 2244 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
@Funkybot's Evil Twin, is the AttackMode in the GE the equivalent to CompressorMode in the #free Molotok - Version?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:37 pm Some presets for GE. These were all cooked up in the last two days using synths, so really track comp type duties. Check the Makeup gain for an idea of gain reduction targets - if you're getting way more reduction you may want to adjust the levels into the comp.
Deep and SlowHard Knee Four<TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="Off" Attack="21" AttackMode="0.90" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DualStage="Off" SecondaryAttack="2000" SecondaryRelease="2000" SecondaryAttackMix="0.0" FeedbackMode="Off" ReleaseRelax="Off" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="0.0" MidEQOn="Off" MidEQMode="Static" Limiter="0.0" LimOn="Off" SatOn="Off" SatMode="Static" SatDrive="0.0" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="1500" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>Transparent and Deep<TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="Off" Attack="15" AttackMode="1.00" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="1.00" Makeup="3.5" DualStage="Off" SecondaryAttack="2000" SecondaryRelease="2000" SecondaryAttackMix="0.0" FeedbackMode="Off" ReleaseRelax="On" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="0.0" MidEQOn="Off" MidEQMode="Static" Limiter="0.0" LimOn="Off" SatOn="On" SatMode="Static" SatDrive="0.0" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="1500" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>Dual and Slow<TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="Off" Attack="18" AttackMode="0.40" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="0.50" Makeup="5.5" DualStage="On" SecondaryAttack="600" SecondaryRelease="3300" SecondaryAttackMix="12.0" FeedbackMode="On" ReleaseRelax="On" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="0.0" MidEQOn="Off" MidEQMode="Static" Limiter="0.0" LimOn="Off" SatOn="On" SatMode="Static" SatDrive="0.0" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="1500" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>Crispy Peak Shaver<TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="Off" Attack="21" AttackMode="0.90" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DualStage="On" SecondaryAttack="2000" SecondaryRelease="2000" SecondaryAttackMix="0.0" FeedbackMode="Off" ReleaseRelax="Off" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="0.0" MidEQOn="Off" MidEQMode="Static" Limiter="0.0" LimOn="Off" SatOn="On" SatMode="Dynamic" SatDrive="1.0" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="1500" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/><TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="130" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="Off" Attack="1.6" AttackMode="0.00" Release="110" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.66" Makeup="5.0" DualStage="Off" SecondaryAttack="2000" SecondaryRelease="2000" SecondaryAttackMix="0.0" FeedbackMode="On" ReleaseRelax="Off" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="0.0" MidEQOn="Off" MidEQMode="Static" Limiter="-6.5" LimOn="On" SatOn="On" SatMode="Dynamic" SatDrive="2.5" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="1500" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Deep and Slow Molotok #free
Hard Knee Four Molotok #free<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="21" CompressorMode="0.9" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Transparent and Deep Molotok #free<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="15" CompressorMode="1.0" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="1.00" Makeup="3.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Dual and Slow Molotok #free<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="18" CompressorMode="0.4" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="0.50" Makeup="5.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Crispy Peak Shaver Molotok #free<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="21" CompressorMode="0.9" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
They should all work in the #free - version as expected now; still not sure about the CompressorMode, which might be useful to tweak around a bit.<TDRMolotok SideHP="130" SideHPOn="On" Attack="1.6" CompressorMode="0.0" Release="110" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.66" Makeup="5.0" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Hope you dont mind @Funkybot's Evil Twin for doing this quick little port of your work; maybe they are useful for some. So thanks a lot for these!
Last edited by El°HYM on Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:39 am, edited 2 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Let's talk about price. audiodeluxe has it for $36US after discount. TDR wants 40€/$48US or as a bundle upgrade 30€/$36. I asked TDR if "upgrading to the bundle" would lock all products to a bundle license in the event of a license transfer (then requiring the whole bundle to be transferred). They said no, all products remain separate licenses. So no difference in price between AD vs TDR bundle upgrade. I guess buying directly from TDR would result in them getting more of the money (they wouldnt have to pay AD a cut)? Seems like going direct with TDR is the way to go if you have the 30€ bundle upgrade price. Otherwise it's cheaper to go with AD ($36 vs 40€/$48).
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- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
i like the ugly green. i thought i wouldn't, but after a day it really grew on me, and now i don't want it any different. it's funny how things work.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11520 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The first 3 presets were created in the free version and ported over to the GE version so I can at least give you those. Thanks for doing the port! Here are my original presets for the first 3...
Deep and Slow (Molotok Free)
Hard Knee Four (Molotok Free)<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="21" CompressorMode="0.9" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
Transparent and Deep (Molotok Free)<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="15" CompressorMode="1.0" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="1.00" Makeup="3.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="18" CompressorMode="0.4" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="0.50" Makeup="5.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
This is needed to get opto-style program-dependent release. The "opto" preset uses this heavily, with a 3-second secondary release stage! Especially useful for vocals or bass guitar, where transients can be quite large and you want to control them a bit without pumping the tail.
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- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
similarly with imrae, i found the double attack let me compress an unevenly played piano more smoothly by having a quick small initial attack to contain any too-loud transients, and then a much much much slowwwer attack to stabilize the overall volume without as many dips or jerks
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heavymetalmixer heavymetalmixer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=391539
- KVRian
- 692 posts since 8 Jan, 2017
What do you mean with "double attack"?sleepcircle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:31 pm similarly with imrae, i found the double attack let me compress an unevenly played piano more smoothly by having a quick small initial attack to contain any too-loud transients, and then a much much much slowwwer attack to stabilize the overall volume without as many dips or jerks
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11520 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Here's one that gives an LA-2A vibe on Electric Bass (probably other sources too). Target -4 to -5db of gain reduction on your levels going in.
Opto Bass (GE version)
Opto Bass (GE version)
<TDRMolotGE InputGain="0.0" SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" SideRotatorOn="On" Attack="6.0" AttackMode="0.30" Release="100" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-24.0" Knee="0.80" Makeup="4.0" DualStage="On" SecondaryAttack="50" SecondaryRelease="3500" SecondaryAttackMix="30.0" FeedbackMode="On" ReleaseRelax="On" RatioSpecial="Off" MidEQ="-1.5" MidEQOn="On" MidEQMode="Dynamic" Limiter="-6.0" LimOn="On" SatOn="On" SatMode="Static" SatDrive="1.5" LoFi="Off" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoLink="On" StereoLinkType="Normal" StereoLinkCrossover="625" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" WidthThreshold="0.0" WidthMakeup="0.0" MeterRange="9 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11520 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
In the GE mode, if you Alt+Click the SC Button, you get a SC Hilbert mode. Shh...it's secret!
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Not buying it until there's Dan Worrall video
But seriously, I'm really tempted to get that audiodeluxe.com deal. Funnily enough, on TDR's website the same bundle is EUR200 and in my account I've offer to upgrade to it for... EUR230
But seriously, I'm really tempted to get that audiodeluxe.com deal. Funnily enough, on TDR's website the same bundle is EUR200 and in my account I've offer to upgrade to it for... EUR230
- KVRAF
- 2244 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Thanks!Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:21 pmThe first 3 presets were created in the free version and ported over to the GE version so I can at least give you those. Thanks for doing the port! Here are my original presets for the first 3...
Deep and Slow (Molotok Free)Hard Knee Four (Molotok Free)<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="21" CompressorMode="0.9" Release="598" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-22.7" Knee="0.50" Makeup="6.0" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>Transparent and Deep (Molotok Free)<TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="15" CompressorMode="1.0" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="1.00" Makeup="3.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/><TDRMolotok SideHP="120" SideHPOn="On" Attack="18" CompressorMode="0.4" Release="200" Ratio="4.0" Threshold="-20.0" Knee="0.50" Makeup="5.5" DryMix="0.0" Output="0.0" StereoMode="Stereo" Quality="Precise" Bypass="Off" SidechainMode="Int. SC" DeltaMode="Off" MeterRange="6 dB" MeterMode="Relative"/>
So the Meter - Range seems set to 6 db Anyway in Molotok, as it seems; which is the only Difference I could spot. I would also suggest proper Gainstaging when using the #free - version of this one, like using an Utility - Device in front of it or similar. Got some good & pleasing Results with it so far, might Upgrade to the GE later this Year. Yet for now the #free - version is actually pretty useful, so far.
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- KVRAF
- 11520 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The free version is indeed excellent and easier to work with due to the reduced feature set and cleaner GUI.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 22 Apr, 2020
Linux versions, please.