It would be great to hear some comparisons with the original. If I developed a analog emulation, and did some A/B comparisons during development, I'd just record some of the stuff, and post it when I release the synth. Captain Obvious, kind of, but, unfortunately, the least companies really do that. With anything which has a "analog emulation" tag on it, I always wonder how it compares to the original, obviously.v1o wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:26 pm How close does it sound to the real thing? I will only respect the opinions of those who spent thousands on an original vintage unit. Not the Behringer or Korg remakes.
Cherry Audio's CA2600 is available NOW!
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- KVRAF
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
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There’s an “all the gear and no idea” guy who just posted up comparisons on YouTube of the BARP, Korg and original Arp 2600. I guess he could do a comparison, but I imagine it’ll be piss poor.chk071 wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:47 pmIt would be great to hear some comparisons with the original. If I developed a analog emulation, and did some A/B comparisons during development, I'd just record some of the stuff, and post it when I release the synth. Captain Obvious, kind of, but, unfortunately, the least companies really do that. With anything which has a "analog emulation" tag on it, I always wonder how it compares to the original, obviously.v1o wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:26 pm How close does it sound to the real thing? I will only respect the opinions of those who spent thousands on an original vintage unit. Not the Behringer or Korg remakes.
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I imagine you would be right. Watched that vid the other day, and was pretty-much WTF?WatchTheGuitar wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:52 pm There’s an “all the gear and no idea” guy who just posted up comparisons on YouTube of the BARP, Korg and original Arp 2600. I guess he could do a comparison, but I imagine it’ll be piss poor.
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That Behringer thingy looks nice, with its Xmas tree lights on black metal. But I wonder how long it takes before the first of those zillions of mechanical controls breaks.
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I’d be apoplectic if my £3k 2600 had issues. A £500 one, meh, could buy a replacement while the other is being repaired.e-crooner wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:04 pm That Behringer thingy looks nice, with its Xmas tree lights on black metal. But I wonder how long it takes before the first of those zillions of mechanical controls breaks.
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I'm looking forward to that comparison. I did an A/B between CA2600 and the Arturia version, starting from an init patch (basically all sliders down and no patching) and played with some filter FM and other audio rate oscillator mods.... and they are two completely different sounding synths. But I have no idea if either one is closer to the real thing, I just know that audio rate stuff is pretty tricky to pull off in software. CA2600 sounds great though, with some nice patches. $25 is an impulse buy!chk071 wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:47 pmIt would be great to hear some comparisons with the original. If I developed a analog emulation, and did some A/B comparisons during development, I'd just record some of the stuff, and post it when I release the synth. Captain Obvious, kind of, but, unfortunately, the least companies really do that. With anything which has a "analog emulation" tag on it, I always wonder how it compares to the original, obviously.v1o wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:26 pm How close does it sound to the real thing? I will only respect the opinions of those who spent thousands on an original vintage unit. Not the Behringer or Korg remakes.
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I don't know how the Cherry Audio synths are, I never tried one of them. But, quite disappointed with the Arturia emulations. Their filters all sound pretty bog standard, and are not at all at the level of authenticity of other emulations. IMHO. Pretty sure someone will rip me apart for that again.CausticPuppy wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:15 pmI'm looking forward to that comparison. I did an A/B between CA2600 and the Arturia version, starting from an init patch (basically all sliders down and no patching) and played with some filter FM and other audio rate oscillator mods.... and they are two completely different sounding synths. But I have no idea if either one is closer to the real thing, I just know that audio rate stuff is pretty tricky to pull off in software.chk071 wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:47 pmIt would be great to hear some comparisons with the original. If I developed a analog emulation, and did some A/B comparisons during development, I'd just record some of the stuff, and post it when I release the synth. Captain Obvious, kind of, but, unfortunately, the least companies really do that. With anything which has a "analog emulation" tag on it, I always wonder how it compares to the original, obviously.v1o wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:26 pm How close does it sound to the real thing? I will only respect the opinions of those who spent thousands on an original vintage unit. Not the Behringer or Korg remakes.
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Well, it's the same... but different. And it sounds amazing!Chapelle wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:16 pmMost companies are well aware that their emulations don't sound like the originals.chk071 wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:47 pm It would be great to hear some comparisons with the original. If I developed a analog emulation, and did some A/B comparisons during development, I'd just record some of the stuff, and post it when I release the synth. Captain Obvious, kind of, but, unfortunately, the least companies really do that. With anything which has a "analog emulation" tag on it, I always wonder how it compares to the original, obviously.
They're afraid that by posting comparisons, potential customers would recognize the differences as well and wouldn't buy so easily into the usual "faithful analog emulation" marketing gibberish.
(Just a general observation. Not talking about Cherry Audio here. At $25, I couldn't care less how close it sounds to the original, as long as it sounds great.)
Peter Kern review:
https://cdm.link/2020/11/ca2600-is-a-pe ... -25-bucks/
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What I’ve found with the arturia emulations, especially their earlier ones, is that they sound much better with some tweaked external EQ. Like a lot of their CS-80 presets sound harsh, but add a judicious bit of low pass filter and bump the lows and mids a tad and some of them become great, especially some of the more complex pads. I haven’t played with the Arturia 2600 much tbh as their Modular always seemed more fun to play with.
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In lieu of the equipment being broken/defective, I think the 'technical term' is "user error".chk071 wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:58 pm Just briefly watched the vid, but, it seems like he's pretty good at making good stuff sound bad.![]()
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Couldn't resist , just purchased
Unbelievable value for money , and awesome sounding stuff
Unbelievable value for money , and awesome sounding stuff
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
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- 852 posts since 12 May, 2004
Cherry Dan wrote:
Now if only you could bring that fix over to the Voltage “SynthVoice”, “SynthVoiceFilter” and Cherry’s standard Filter modules…I’d be a happy camper. The perceptible amount of resonance currently available in 12dB mode in those units is barely audible.You'll have lots more resonance in 12dB mode now.
On a number of Macs
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- 24405 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I disagree.v1o wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:12 pmPrice and branding are more important. If you buy cheap gear you don't think much of it.
