How to use Melda plugins to emulate Sonnox Inflator

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Ploki wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:48 pm no no, i didn't misread. my way of communication is just overly aggressive. i'm working on it.
Hehe, no worries. I absolutely did not interprete anything as "aggressive" so far, hehe!


@Gregorius:
Thanks for your replies as well. Quite interesting to know! True and understandable points to me in your recent posts. Thanks for sharing. :)
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It IS easy to replicate using Melda Waveshaper.

Effect = dry/wet
Curve 0 = melda curve shape 1 (right click to set this), pull up the curve towards the top as far as it will go.

You are done. Near identical sound. Save as a preset to save 10 seconds.

To replicate curve shape +50 is a little more fiddly, i needed a minute to do this on Melda. Later tried it on Izotope Trash 2 which I own so I could save a preset for it.

Clip is a soft clip. Pull down the top of the curve to get that effect.
Last edited by el davo on Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:05 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Just tested it. Either I messed it up or it really is not even close to null on a null test. Please share the preset.

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I have only the free version so no preset functionality (sorry, I was a bit unclear on the preset bit in the previous post, edited). If you want to test out the cancellation vs Inflator, you will need to also adjust the output volume on Melda. Somewhere between -0.2 dB and -2 dB, I can't quite remember.

I grabbed a screen capture of settings replicating Inflator with Curve at 0 and effect set to 100%. https://ibb.co/kBMHvzJ

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Hehe, cool. When using the MWaveShaperMB with these settings (for each band equally) I get interesting results. Thanks for sharing. :)

Here is a little MWaveShaperMB preset I just made on this base:

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Here is my extension of this idea. Spencer

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Thanks everyone for the discussion. Quite often when I see sales on plugins, I usually think to myself
"I bet my Melda plugins could do something like that".
And now I remembered MTranformer, which has a level transformation graph, which seems like
a waveshaper within that plugin.
Time to experiment!

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spencerlee wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:37 am Here is my extension of this idea. Spencer
Well: you should always tell us for which plugin presets are, hehe. I just realised that it is for MWaveShaperMB.

Some feedback to this preset: "Inflate" only controls band 1 to 3; not the other bands! Same for ceiling. Also: some bands have a different panning. I would avoid that; especially for a plugin, which might sit in the master channel, hehe.
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Oh Shit I worked too quickly.
I will fix it in an hour and repost. Thank you for finding my errors.
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I tried to fix but i cannot get band 5 to work. Very strange. could somebody see if they can find the error.

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For MWaveShaperMB

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Seems like you bypassed band 5?

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Thanks I am very tired and have been soldering 96 resistors on 2 switches in my new interface that has taken me 8 months.

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That should be it.
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Someone over at GS derived the transfer function Inflator uses and shared a large number of Melda Waveshaper presets that perfectly null Inflator in single band mode. Enjoy
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpos ... tcount=118

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el davo wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:37 am Someone over at GS derived the transfer function Inflator uses and shared a large number of Melda Waveshaper presets that perfectly null Inflator in single band mode. Enjoy
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpos ... tcount=118
Haha, nice one! They even did a null-test, which was quite astonishign to me, nice. :)
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I wish there were a way to use machine learning to recreate effects using melda tools. There are so many features available within MXXX, imagine if you left a machine learning system iterating over random or mutated MXXX settings, trying to hone in on a comparison effect using null-tests as your 'success' condition. You could probably recreate a ton of vintage or esoteric effect this way. I vaguely remember vojtech saying he used ML for MTurboComp, I wonder if use plans to use it for anything else, or to give us access to those tools (probably not feasible though)

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