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docbot · Post by **docbot** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:44 am

BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 am I also prefer Ableton look and feel over Bitwig. And as some said they wanted at pop up browser in Live, i don't like this. To each his own i guess.

100% Agree, the Browser in Ableton is much better than the Pop Up one in Bitwig. You just know where things are and the two column design works great.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:46 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:43 am
revvy wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:26 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:33 am To the people advocating for Bitwig and Live I dislike the way both UIs don’t trust people to move the component windows round to match the way they’d prefer to work. Set sizes for certain panels are frustrating and I really hate constantly having to choose between access to midi item content and the active plugin window. The teeny squished mixer is horrible too. This rigidity benefits just two sets of people IMO - people doing video tutorials and lazy documentation providers.
It's a Live thread. Bye!
I have 10 Live Suite and use it and other DAWs, it’s not perfect and neither are they.

In that case, welcome back and I hope you enjoy the thread!

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:46 am

Aloha!

Kongru · Post by **Kongru** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:49 am

BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:35 am And what about the Frost theme? Is it back????

Not sure if this is it but you should be able to find it on this website - https://www.abletonthemes.com/themes/frost/13375

I found a nice theme that matches the Maschine software so now when it’s open they both look uniform

Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:52 am

ReleaseCandidate wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:05 am
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 am I also prefer Ableton look and feel over Bitwig. And as some said they wanted at pop up browser in Live, i don't like this. To each his own i guess.
That. I always close the browser and let it 'pop up' with <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<b>.

Or with CTRL+F if you want to search for something.
Or with the Hot Swap button (Q) if you want to load a preset.

The only downside is that the browser doesn't always automatically hide after you finish your action.

ReleaseCandidate · Post by **ReleaseCandidate** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:59 am

EdSfer wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:38 am
leeleema wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:33 am I believe it will be a separate installation. Pretty sure that's what happened when I installed 10 as I had to manually uninstall Ableton 9. That's on Mac OSX
This means I might not even have the choice (which makes my life easier after all). Might be worth mentioning I'm on Windows 10 though, don't know if it changes anything.

About the library: depends how you configure Live 10, you can setup another directory for Live 10 to use. But when importing packs to Live 10 they get updated and you can't use them with 9 any more.

ReleaseCandidate · Post by **ReleaseCandidate** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:01 pm

Rivanni wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:52 am
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:05 am
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 am I also prefer Ableton look and feel over Bitwig. And as some said they wanted at pop up browser in Live, i don't like this. To each his own i guess.
That. I always close the browser and let it 'pop up' with <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<b>.
Or with CTRL+F if you want to search for something.
Or with the Hot Swap button (Q) if you want to load a preset.

The only downside is that the browser doesn't always automatically hide after you finish your action.

Excatly! But Bitwigs tagging and filtering functions are better. Maybe after another update ....

EdSfer · Post by **EdSfer** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:33 pm

ReleaseCandidate wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:59 am
About the library: depends how you configure Live 10, you can setup another directory for Live 10 to use. But when importing packs to Live 10 they get updated and you can't use them with 9 any more.

Oh, that's a useful information, thanks. Not sure what you mean by "importing" packs though?

I ended up installing the 3 months trial version of Live 10 (don't know if there's any difference with the "paid" version) and it didn't ask me anything about the packs (it looks like it didn't download any either) but they're all here, in "Packs" as if I was still on 9 so I'm not sure what I should avoid doing if I don't want them to stop working in Live 9.

ReleaseCandidate · Post by **ReleaseCandidate** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:47 pm

EdSfer wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:33 pm
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:59 am
About the library: depends how you configure Live 10, you can setup another directory for Live 10 to use. But when importing packs to Live 10 they get updated and you can't use them with 9 any more.
Not sure what you mean by "importing" packs though?

When you install an older Live Pack, the '.alp' file, either per 'File->Install Pack' or by double or drag-and-drop, Live tells you that it is updating that when installing to your library. Or something like that - has been quite some time now.

EdSfer · Post by **EdSfer** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:00 pm

Thank you very much

ozinga · Post by **ozinga** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:18 pm

The best thing I liked about Bitwig browser was the ability to audition samples, plugins or presets in context/in place.
You can try out different samples, synths, compressors presets etc without leaving the browser and without permanently changing what is currently loaded. With just pressing cancel you go back to the original content. Super useful. Wish something like that was in Live 11.

Crampe · Post by **Crampe** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:27 pm

jackmazzotti wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:26 pm I would like to have midi control over opening and closing plugin windows.

The VSTs open buttons are now key/midi mappable

Crampe · Post by **Crampe** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:32 pm

resistent wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:40 pm Again, bounce in place would be fantastic.

For the time being, M4L is your friend

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:38 pm

Kongru wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:49 am
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:35 am And what about the Frost theme? Is it back????
Not sure if this is it but you should be able to find it on this website - https://www.abletonthemes.com/themes/frost/13375

I found a nice theme that matches the Maschine software so now when it’s open they both look uniform

What’s the theme Kongru?
I use Maschine too and like the sound of that

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:47 pm

simmo75 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:38 pm
Kongru wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:49 am
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:35 am And what about the Frost theme? Is it back????
Not sure if this is it but you should be able to find it on this website - https://www.abletonthemes.com/themes/frost/13375

I found a nice theme that matches the Maschine software so now when it’s open they both look uniform
What’s the theme Kongru?
I use Maschine too and like the sound of that

https://www.abletonthemes.com/themes/ni ... e-bc2/1012
Very similar to Bitwig Theme

Ableton Live 11