Vital - Released
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
Yeah if you have your own audio file you can vocode it by just dragging it onto the wavetable.Paree wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:20 amYou can technically load an audio file having words and vocode and the results will be similar, right?Whywhy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:59 amYou're not wrong.dune_rave wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 am i don't run my things offline, but i don't like the fact that vital has a 'component' (text to wt) in 'another' environment. of course i think you don't use this component all the time just only when you generate a new wt...(or am i wrong?)
You just need to be online when you want to access to the text to wavetable service.
I generally disable my internet when I make music, to stay focused and put it on if I need to use the Vital text to wavetable. I save my wt, close internet, and start playing with the new wt.
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
So it basically turns a sample into a wavetable which can then be internally stored as part of a preset without the necessity to load the sample every time you load the patch? Am I getting this right?mtytel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:47 amYeah if you have your own audio file you can vocode it by just dragging it onto the wavetable.Paree wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:20 amYou can technically load an audio file having words and vocode and the results will be similar, right?Whywhy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:59 amYou're not wrong.dune_rave wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 am i don't run my things offline, but i don't like the fact that vital has a 'component' (text to wt) in 'another' environment. of course i think you don't use this component all the time just only when you generate a new wt...(or am i wrong?)
You just need to be online when you want to access to the text to wavetable service.
I generally disable my internet when I make music, to stay focused and put it on if I need to use the Vital text to wavetable. I save my wt, close internet, and start playing with the new wt.
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Wowwee - I’m going to buy!mtytel wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:43 pmYeah, the best TTS engines are only available through web servcies. But you can vocode your own samples into wavetables locally so if you have a TTS engine on your computer you can just take the output and drop it on the wavetable.
One suggestion to save cost is have interesting/common prerecorded TTS material available for download as sample content - also might help to show the end user how to get the most out of using TTS
- addled muppet weed
- 111241 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
a list of swearwords then?goldenanalog wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:37 pmWowwee - I’m going to buy!mtytel wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:43 pmYeah, the best TTS engines are only available through web servcies. But you can vocode your own samples into wavetables locally so if you have a TTS engine on your computer you can just take the output and drop it on the wavetable.
One suggestion to save cost is have interesting/common prerecorded TTS material available for download as sample content - also might help to show the end user how to get the most out of using TTS
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
Right. The audio file is stored inside the wavetable and the wavetable is stored in the preset. The wavetables in Vital are also non-destructive meaning it keeps all the original sources intact (except for data trimming). So if you load an audio file with some wavetable settings and save the wavetable, you can load it back later and change the imported settings.crickey13 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:55 pmSo it basically turns a sample into a wavetable which can then be internally stored as part of a preset without the necessity to load the sample every time you load the patch? Am I getting this right?mtytel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:47 amYeah if you have your own audio file you can vocode it by just dragging it onto the wavetable.Paree wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:20 amYou can technically load an audio file having words and vocode and the results will be similar, right?Whywhy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:59 amYou're not wrong.dune_rave wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 am i don't run my things offline, but i don't like the fact that vital has a 'component' (text to wt) in 'another' environment. of course i think you don't use this component all the time just only when you generate a new wt...(or am i wrong?)
You just need to be online when you want to access to the text to wavetable service.
I generally disable my internet when I make music, to stay focused and put it on if I need to use the Vital text to wavetable. I save my wt, close internet, and start playing with the new wt.
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
I’d be interested to hear how using extended vowel strings would morph using a HQ TTS - example:
“ooooooooouuuuuuuueeeeeeiiiiii” - and so on; the question would be the speed/abruptness/pronunciation in the transitioning from one letter string to the next. Variations of this could be prerecorded for download, assuming that the TTS service produces the same results every time using the same parameters.
Edit: absolutely, Vurt! Male/female; In different languages; etc.
You’re a genius, as always!
“ooooooooouuuuuuuueeeeeeiiiiii” - and so on; the question would be the speed/abruptness/pronunciation in the transitioning from one letter string to the next. Variations of this could be prerecorded for download, assuming that the TTS service produces the same results every time using the same parameters.
Edit: absolutely, Vurt! Male/female; In different languages; etc.
You’re a genius, as always!
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- KVRAF
- 3041 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
So this is similar to Soniccharge Patternarium - an online tool, from which you can copy settings/content to your instrument...Whywhy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:59 amYou're not wrong.dune_rave wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 am i don't run my things offline, but i don't like the fact that vital has a 'component' (text to wt) in 'another' environment. of course i think you don't use this component all the time just only when you generate a new wt...(or am i wrong?)
You just need to be online when you want to access to the text to wavetable service.
I generally disable my internet when I make music, to stay focused and put it on if I need to use the Vital text to wavetable. I save my wt, close internet, and start playing with the new wt.
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Very interesting! You’ve been doing this a while, haven’t you?mtytel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 pmRight. The audio file is stored inside the wavetable and the wavetable is stored in the preset. The wavetables in Vital are also non-destructive meaning it keeps all the original sources intact (except for data trimming). So if you load an audio file with some wavetable settings and save the wavetable, you can load it back later and change the imported settings.crickey13 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:55 pmSo it basically turns a sample into a wavetable which can then be internally stored as part of a preset without the necessity to load the sample every time you load the patch? Am I getting this right?mtytel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:47 amYeah if you have your own audio file you can vocode it by just dragging it onto the wavetable.Paree wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:20 amYou can technically load an audio file having words and vocode and the results will be similar, right?Whywhy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:59 amYou're not wrong.dune_rave wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 am i don't run my things offline, but i don't like the fact that vital has a 'component' (text to wt) in 'another' environment. of course i think you don't use this component all the time just only when you generate a new wt...(or am i wrong?)
You just need to be online when you want to access to the text to wavetable service.
I generally disable my internet when I make music, to stay focused and put it on if I need to use the Vital text to wavetable. I save my wt, close internet, and start playing with the new wt.
- so I’m very interested in what you mean by “data trimming” - is FFT preprocessing involved? (immediately what comes to mind via assumption)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
No a lot more simple. If you import a 5 second audio file but only use the first second in the wavetable it'll trim the last 4 seconds when you save it.goldenanalog wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:09 pm - so I’d be vey interested in what you mean by “data trimming” - does that involve FFT preprocessing? (immediately what comes to mind via assumption)
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Wow - so sample -> wt happens; and then is saved - sample 100% intact.mtytel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:12 pmNo a lot more simple. If you import a 5 second audio file but only use the first second in the wavetable it'll trim the last 4 seconds when you save it.goldenanalog wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:09 pm - so I’d be vey interested in what you mean by “data trimming” - does that involve FFT preprocessing? (immediately what comes to mind via assumption)
Edit: is the material/region in the sample to be trimmed and wavetabled fully selectable; freq and perhaps bit depth adjustable as well?
That is perhaps the bane of wavetable synths when it comes to sample import/conversion: most don’t have anywhere near (imho) an editor that takes real advantage of wt synthesis.
Having expressed that: yours looks new; fresh - I wouldn’t hesitate to pay you your asking price, mtytel. No brainer, really.
- KVRian
- 1241 posts since 25 Jan, 2017
I'm entrusting you to the production/release of the swearwords wavetable pack.vurt wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:39 pma list of swearwords then?goldenanalog wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:37 pmWowwee - I’m going to buy!mtytel wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:43 pmYeah, the best TTS engines are only available through web servcies. But you can vocode your own samples into wavetables locally so if you have a TTS engine on your computer you can just take the output and drop it on the wavetable.
One suggestion to save cost is have interesting/common prerecorded TTS material available for download as sample content - also might help to show the end user how to get the most out of using TTS![]()
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 8 Jun, 2019
Don't worry, I'm sure you can beg nicely and be allowed to resell it.
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
That's just awesome and wonderful and great. I could get the free version, but I want to support you and want to have some extra wavetables and whatnot. Besides, it makes sense to have the fully functional monster in its full glory. This is proper sh!t.
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
I foresee new genres being born from this synth
