If you randomized the phases of the harmonics you gonna have a different shape of waveform each time,
but it will sound all the same.... maybe that's why Voytech find it irrelevant....
MSF Oscillator: Can I turn Harmonics into a Wave?
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- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Okay, time for a sound example:qcmv22 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 am If you randomized the phases of the harmonics you gonna have a different shape of waveform each time,
but it will sound all the same.... maybe that's why Voytech find it irrelevant....
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dexus695owm4 ... e.mp3?dl=1
Do you really think that the two different patches sound the same? The first one just has random phase.
Maybe I am imagining it, but then I have a very constant imagination
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1285 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
Yeah, when I read qcmv22's comment, I thought one of us is crazy, but then I tested it and confirmed it's not me. The phase of the harmonics changes the sound as much as it changes the shape.
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- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
@qcmv22
You may not hear a difference in higher octaves, but what about the basses? Hear how soft or sharp or clicky or pulsating it sounds.
Both representations have their weaknesses, it is just a tool to understand something faster.
In the frequency spectrum you don't see what the envelope of the waveform is like, but you can hear it in basses. In Oscillator you don't see how the tones are distributed over the frequency spectrum. Therefore both tools exist and both have given me important information in the past.
In basses, the first three harmonics and their phase are important and shapes the sound. This is also only seen in the oscillator (during analyzing, because you can't see the phase).
You may not hear a difference in higher octaves, but what about the basses? Hear how soft or sharp or clicky or pulsating it sounds.
Both representations have their weaknesses, it is just a tool to understand something faster.
In the frequency spectrum you don't see what the envelope of the waveform is like, but you can hear it in basses. In Oscillator you don't see how the tones are distributed over the frequency spectrum. Therefore both tools exist and both have given me important information in the past.
In basses, the first three harmonics and their phase are important and shapes the sound. This is also only seen in the oscillator (during analyzing, because you can't see the phase).
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 5 Mar, 2018
Of course just a 20hz sine wave without an envelope starting with a phase of 90 degre give you an attack less smooth than
a phase of 0. Also phases seem to play a role in the loudness.. just looking at the oscillator graphic : the surface under the
curve look bigger in my random phase example.
a phase of 0. Also phases seem to play a role in the loudness.. just looking at the oscillator graphic : the surface under the
curve look bigger in my random phase example.