Cubase 11 available now

[antic604]

I didn't upgrade to C11 For me it's useless update. Also, I'm on 1080p - scaling is not an issue for me and I'm soooo happy about it

It would be if you wanted to run it at 125%, like I do on a 1080p laptop.
I can run Bitwig, Live or S1 without ANY problems.
Cubase - and Reason, which is a different case - are the outliers

[pixel85]

I didn't upgrade to C11 For me it's useless update. Also, I'm on 1080p - scaling is not an issue for me and I'm soooo happy about it

It would be if you wanted to run it at 125%, like I do on a 1080p laptop.
I can run Bitwig, Live or S1 without ANY problems.
Cubase - and Reason, which is a different case - are the outliers

Fortunately, my eyes still let me work and enjoy quite of space at 21:9, 29" 100% scaling I even tried opposite (with NVIDIA settings) and get even more space like 80% but it was way too blurry

[zvenx]

I can't say too much.
But I will say this:
https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... Windows-10
The behaviour in C10 was actually a 'flaw' that had advantages for people who wanted found it suitable to work at 100% Cubase 125% system, the 'flaw' was 'corrected' in Cubase 11. That is it is now working as it was intended to work.


Also I repeat I don't have the synthwhateveritiscalled, but Sampletank 4 and Mixbox have their own gui scaling so I didn't have to use Cubendo's faux scaling and using ik's scaling on my windows 10 I don't have the diminishing gui size that he has.
rsp

[Compyfox]

They may want to make sure they have this installed.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... -downloads

rsp

The screenshot I posted clearly states "An installation package for the product Steinberg Library Manager can not be found" though. And the next part stating "WHOOPS - you're trying to install a non-legit copy of our host... try again!".

If it's really just a Visual C++ thing... why is the C++ runtime installed with the Download Assistant, but not with Cubase 11 who also upgrades the eLicenser software still, no?

It's like as if Steinberg is assuming, you're always online and have the Download Manager installed as well, which now needs to be logged into your Steinberg account on top of that. It's as if "online only" rigs just don't exist.


Well... Maybe that will be fixed with the .0.10 hotfix in a couple of weeks, maybe not. We'll never know.

[zvenx]

"If it's really just a Visual C++ thing... why is the C++ runtime installed with the Download Assistant, but not with Cubase 11 who also upgrades the eLicenser software still, no?"

It probably is..... I know the link I posted has stuff that is required, that may not be automatically installed now.

I said "may want to" ..... suggesting it can't hurt to try that.

Also I only read this part of your post:

Can anyone confirm, that a "vanilla" install of Cubase 11 leads to an error message, that you can't install it on Windows 10 due to a missing runtime?

I've read about this over on GS.

Apologies.
rsp

[loachm]

...anyone using C11 Artist? I'm a bit confused, as here (under highlights) it states, that the improved sampler track is only available for the Pro version,

https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/compare-editions/

whereas here it states, it is available for all versions.

https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/new-features/

Can anybody tell, which is one is accurate?

[jancivil]

The info in the page from your second link does not really indicate for all versions, it's a separate section with _all new features_, not in the section where a specific feature has bluegreen-highlighted versions indicated. So it does not necessarily disagree with compare editions info. I'd go with the compare page.

[chk071]

The way I understand it, the new features page should definitely show the features which are available fully featured on all versions though.

I was a bit confused about the sampler track as well. Steinberg should really be more clear about whether or not that feature is the same in all versions.

[Compyfox]

On the question:

"Can anyone confirm, that a "vanilla" install of Cubase 11 leads to an error message, that you can't install it on Windows 10 due to a missing runtime?"


Thanks to GearSlutz (again):
Turns out, that the installer lacks the "Library Manager". So if you want to install Cubase 11 "vanilla", as in: just Cubase 11, on a clean OS, ideally also offline - it won't work. The Library Manager is installed with the "Download Assistant" though. So even if you run an offline rig, you're forced to install the manager.

[loachm]

The info in the page from your second link does not really indicate for all versions

...yes, it does. If you scroll a bit further down on that second link, you'll see features only available for either the Pro or the Pro & Artist versions.

Still a bit pissed at Steinberg, because when they released C10, it has been indicated for several weeks on the comparison page, that Elements would get side-chaining and an advanced chord assistent, which it didn't.

So, that's why I was asking for an Artist user, who has already upgraded.

[jancivil]

If you scroll a bit further down on that second link, you'll see features only available for either the Pro or the Pro & Artist versions.

from your second link, what displays here does not do that. Above ALL NEW FEATURES are specific features with indications via bluegreen highlight of versions supporting. While scrolling down shows:

Screen Shot 2020-11-16 at 4.07.11 PM.jpg

Links = COMPARE VERSIONS & FEATURES; under Artist, this: https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/features/

then:
BUY CUBASE 11, with those links

then:
Grace Period Update
Customers who have activated [...]

Link = GRACE PERIOD INFO

then:
Give your feedback
[...]
Link = GO TO THE SURVEY

then:
WHAT WAS NEW IN CUBASE 10 & 10.5, no links;
then the bottom of the page with links to social media platforms

I've sorted you. The list at the link "FEATURES/Artist 11" agrees with your first link, Compare Versions.
You're welcome.

[bundoo]

cubase 11 available now - aka cubase 11 available to buy now but sorry no available download because download assistant doesn't work.

[loachm]

...thanks, Jan, but I specifically asked twice for someone, who has already upgraded to C11 Artist and who can answer that. If you aren't that person, then thanks. I asked here and elsewhere and also at Steinberg and I haven't gotten a definitive answer, yet. The reason, why I'm asking is, that at least since v.10 Steinberg is doing something, that can only be described as misleading advertising, as they're highlighting the included features of each version on the first page:

Stem Export.png

Sample Track.png

...and then doing this on another:

Comparison.png

So, I hope, you see my point. As I wrote, it's not the first time, this is happening with a new release, and judging from my experience and impression, I suppose, the updated sampler track is only included in the pro version. I'm considering using Cubase again as my main DAW, and it doesn't matter that much, that the new sampler track isn't included in Artist, but what does to me is investing my time and money into a company, that does such marketing stunts again. Or seems to remove features from their versions - I'm, pretty sure, that Artist once had the extended chord assistent features, which are now only available in the Pro version. And forum posts like these, who claim, that they had removed realtime audio export from Artist, don't create confidence either.

https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 2&t=202578

I've never seen a music software company, who does such advertising or is removing existing features from smaller versions to make them exclusive to the premium version. They've thrown a lot features into Artist now and that's cool, but I'd rather have less features and instead the confidence, that they will still be there in the next version. If what I'm noticing is correct, then Steinberg's behaviour is quite hard to believe. But I'm not that familiar with the Steinberg world anymore, that's why I was asking. So, what I'm really looking for is someone, who could answer that to help me in my decision making and not someone lecturing me in an unnecessary manner. It is not my intention to waste your time, so let us stay civil and, please, return the favour.

Thanks!

[kmonkey]

Indeed second screenshot may force potential buyer to believe that "Sampler Track" is available in Pro, Artist and Elements because in the first screenshot about Stems just "Pro" is lighted and Artist and Elements font is greyed out. Indicating that they are using "light" fonts and darker fonts to point out in which version Stems are available. Seems nice.

But then One would think that on second screenshot they apply same methodology hence people could think all Cubase versions may receive Sampler feature because all fonts are "light" not grey/dark.

However I think this is just "human" error, not intentional marketing misleading. Comparison table is there to prove it.

Such big releases often can have these little quirks. So it's best to ask and seek official confirmation.

[kmonkey]

I've never seen a music software company, who does such advertising or is removing existing features from smaller versions to make them exclusive to the premium version.
Thanks!

Then I guess you never dealt with IK Multimedia right