Strange wav export behaviour!
- KVRAF
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I may be doing something drastically wronge but maybe someone can help. I thought a very important feature was the ability to export wav for mixing elswhere as well as exporting what may very well be the final mix.
BFD
1. When exported files (e.g. kick, snare, room, hihats) are normalised in external wav editor there is a terrible sounding digital distortion as the sound fades out. Most noticable on crashes but also very audible on any file. Makes the file useless but I can notice it there before exporting.
2. The old cutoff crash. How many f**king times do you have to export a crash track before you fluke it and miraculously there it is. But then, oh shit, the old sdistortion is ther as mentioned in 1.
3. Same cutoff sample as in crash but also happening on the toms.
Sampletank
1. Exporting a string track that sounds great. The resulting exported wav file however seems to have a different mix. Some of the notes (usually high notes) are almost inaudible.
Is this Tracktion. Is this the plugins. Who knows. All I know is that I desperately need to export every track separately for mixing at another studio and it is the most infuriating process and I still only have about half the tracks I need exported successfully. I have exported so many times I have lost count. Help me if you can and I will be a happy man.
BFD
1. When exported files (e.g. kick, snare, room, hihats) are normalised in external wav editor there is a terrible sounding digital distortion as the sound fades out. Most noticable on crashes but also very audible on any file. Makes the file useless but I can notice it there before exporting.
2. The old cutoff crash. How many f**king times do you have to export a crash track before you fluke it and miraculously there it is. But then, oh shit, the old sdistortion is ther as mentioned in 1.
3. Same cutoff sample as in crash but also happening on the toms.
Sampletank
1. Exporting a string track that sounds great. The resulting exported wav file however seems to have a different mix. Some of the notes (usually high notes) are almost inaudible.
Is this Tracktion. Is this the plugins. Who knows. All I know is that I desperately need to export every track separately for mixing at another studio and it is the most infuriating process and I still only have about half the tracks I need exported successfully. I have exported so many times I have lost count. Help me if you can and I will be a happy man.
-
- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
I have been having the same cut off cymbal problem but not when exporting. I had the problem using the render track feature where it renders and then automatically adds the track to the edit.
Oddly enough, the same exact cymbal played by the same sampler playing the same 2 note hit in the same track rendered fine in other parts of the song. It was only the one at the end of the song that got cut off. It cut and stuttered a bit.
My eventual solution was to use the export feature and then import the wave.
There is definitly some sort of rendering problem.
I have been rendering tracks to replace cpu overloading
midi tracks and have not noticed the distortion that you refer to.
Oddly enough, the same exact cymbal played by the same sampler playing the same 2 note hit in the same track rendered fine in other parts of the song. It was only the one at the end of the song that got cut off. It cut and stuttered a bit.
My eventual solution was to use the export feature and then import the wave.
There is definitly some sort of rendering problem.
I have been rendering tracks to replace cpu overloading
midi tracks and have not noticed the distortion that you refer to.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
Same here but at the moment I considered that the least of my problems. If you can tell me how to turn it off though, would be cool.PT wrote:I have been having the same cut off cymbal problem but not when exporting. I had the problem using the render track feature where it renders and then automatically adds the track to the edit.
Well it is just with BFD and no external effects. I can't imagine what I could be doing wrong. Unless there is a add shithouse distortion to all drums checkbox I have missed somewhere on the pluginI have been rendering tracks to replace cpu overloading midi tracks and have not noticed the distortion that you refer to.
I can handle the cutoffs toms and cymbals during playback. But when I render I want it perfect obviously. It looks like you understand the frustration but there has to be a way to export a wav without BFD cutting everything off. The computer is well above min requirements and I have muted everything else. I even upped the buffer not that I know if that helps.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I guess. The thing is I'm not sure it is the fault of any particular program. Although I am pretty sure the cutoff hits in BFD are a FXpansion issue. I would report it over there but it's been done. And done. And done.
I just figured I'd post here and see if there are any others with similar problems that might be able to help.
Besides. This is the first I've said on the matter but I would rather let Jules get on with T2.
I just figured I'd post here and see if there are any others with similar problems that might be able to help.
Besides. This is the first I've said on the matter but I would rather let Jules get on with T2.
-
- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
I have a work around.
When I render BDF I first remove everything from the screen (delete all tracks effects except whats needed for the mixdown of the drums)
I make sure to "render at X1 speed"
(in the export audio page)
I make sure that if I use BDF in 16 bit mode then the exported wav file is in 16 bit as well.
BDF 32 bit -- I create 32 bit wav file.
Since I started following these steps all problems seemed to go away.
Cheers
When I render BDF I first remove everything from the screen (delete all tracks effects except whats needed for the mixdown of the drums)
I make sure to "render at X1 speed"
(in the export audio page)
I make sure that if I use BDF in 16 bit mode then the exported wav file is in 16 bit as well.
BDF 32 bit -- I create 32 bit wav file.
Since I started following these steps all problems seemed to go away.
Cheers
-
- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
On the subject of flaky rendering I have had two identical renders (exports) of a song and on the 2nd run it missed a part off the render (a section of flute was missing, it was an automated track).
It's hard to repeat and quite rare but does happen, and may just be related to these other render issues.
It's hard to repeat and quite rare but does happen, and may just be related to these other render issues.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
Cool. I will definitely be giving that a try. Thanks.AndrewSimon wrote:I have a work around.
When I render BDF I first remove everything from the screen (delete all tracks effects except whats needed for the mixdown of the drums)
I make sure to "render at X1 speed"
(in the export audio page)
I make sure that if I use BDF in 16 bit mode then the exported wav file is in 16 bit as well.
BDF 32 bit -- I create 32 bit wav file.
Since I started following these steps all problems seemed to go away.
Cheers

