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Hmmm looks like I'm going to have to wait, seems like the smaller ones don't really offer more control than a good midi controller, but the seaboard rise looks great but more than I'll be willing to spend for a while.
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One word for the people thinking about another control surface -- Morph. Course you'll need to roll your own template, but opens up the floodgates for control. Use it for left hand control, not for playing.
Have you tried Vital?

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bmanic wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:43 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:22 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:13 pm I have a feature request: a response curve editor for the pressure modulation. I’m using a Rise 49, and it’s nice to be able to build a curve that acts like a threshold control so I’m not constantly spitting out pressure into a parameter that’s getting controlled by an envelope as well. For instance, when I want the attack of a sound to have a filter sweep, but later in the note I want to use pressure to mess with the cutoff.
Already there...

Assign pressure to a parameter and then go to the Matrix. You will see the pressure assignment. There is a quick morph curve and if you select that mod slot, the remix graph below lets you create any shape you want. Add as many points as needed. So you can have pressure controlling say 4 parameters and each parameter can have any imaginable curve.

Each slot also has a uni-bipolar switch and a switch that lets the modulation offset left and right.

Vital is likely to become my favorite synth for precise MPE control.
Yeah, but that is a HUGE workaround. Having separate curves for the incoming data would be a much more universal solution for each user. Instead of having to tweak every single preset separately.

Also, it's not always possible or at all easy to do if the used modmap curve is complex to start with. Try modifying one with tons of extremely carefully placed points.. not easy nor fun.
I'm always doing it per preset anyway... and with separate curves per target if that synth allows it. With pressure I might have one target that I want to come in right away, then another that does nothing for the first part of the press and so on. That sort of thing is always going to be per preset.

I really don't expect to have a Mod Map curve with tons of carefully placed points. I would use an LFO/MSEG for that, and would not use something like that for pressure or slide. Then the Mod Map curve can scale or flex the complex LFO curve.

Vital seems exceptionally good in this regard. I'm not sure what use cases you are talking about.

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What makes Vital worthy of purchase when compared to Serum, Sylenth, Hive, Anima, Pigments, etc.? From the YouTube videos it is nothing that hasn't been covered for years. The price is nice, though.

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HTT wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:43 pm What makes Vital worthy of purchase when compared to Serum, Sylenth, Hive, Anima, Pigments, etc.? From the YouTube videos it is nothing that hasn't been covered for years. The price is nice, though.
That depends from person to person... I'm finding the wavetable Osc's in Vital to have the most compelling feature set of any of the wavetable synths I have tried (which is many of them). Each Osc is very powerful and controllable, not just in sweeping the wavetable, but across a keyboard range as well. It stands out to me in that regard... but then I love tweaking synth presets to get them just right. There are lots of great wavetable synths today.

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AnX wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:12 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:50 pm For those of you who own Vital, Dune 3, and Hive as well the Text to Wavetables created in Vital work in both of them as well.
vice versa?
I don't know if you've got an answer but Vital loads Hive WT.
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HTT wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:43 pm What makes Vital worthy of purchase when compared to Serum, Sylenth, Hive, Anima, Pigments, etc.? From the YouTube videos it is nothing that hasn't been covered for years. The price is nice, though.
Because it starts with a "V" which also happens to be everyone's favorite body part...



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Have you tried Vital?

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theorize wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:54 pm
Teksonik wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:05 pm
theorize wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:17 am Does anyone know of an official email for bug reports and such?
There is a support email address in the receipt you got when purchasing Vital.

I reported an issue a couple of days ago but have not received an answer yet. I imagine Matt is just swamped with support requests right now.
Thanks, I'm sure he is swamped but it'll be there when he gets to it d:)
For the record I did receive a response earlier today. :tu:
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liquidsound wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:55 pm
AnX wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:12 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:50 pm For those of you who own Vital, Dune 3, and Hive as well the Text to Wavetables created in Vital work in both of them as well.
vice versa?
I don't know if you've got an answer but Vital loads Hive WT.
But not in .uhm format.
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pdxindy wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:50 pm
HTT wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:43 pm What makes Vital worthy of purchase when compared to Serum, Sylenth, Hive, Anima, Pigments, etc.? From the YouTube videos it is nothing that hasn't been covered for years. The price is nice, though.
That depends from person to person... I'm finding the wavetable Osc's in Vital to have the most compelling feature set of any of the wavetable synths I have tried (which is many of them). Each Osc is very powerful and controllable, not just in sweeping the wavetable, but across a keyboard range as well. It stands out to me in that regard... but then I love tweaking synth presets to get them just right. There are lots of great wavetable synths today.
I would have to agree it's the oscillators that drew me in.
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pdxindy wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:50 pm
HTT wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:43 pm What makes Vital worthy of purchase when compared to Serum, Sylenth, Hive, Anima, Pigments, etc.? From the YouTube videos it is nothing that hasn't been covered for years. The price is nice, though.
That depends from person to person... I'm finding the wavetable Osc's in Vital to have the most compelling feature set of any of the wavetable synths I have tried (which is many of them). Each Osc is very powerful and controllable, not just in sweeping the wavetable, but across a keyboard range as well. It stands out to me in that regard... but then I love tweaking synth presets to get them just right. There are lots of great wavetable synths today.
From the videos I have seen, Vital is completely and totally underwhelming for anyone that already has any of the following: Serum/Sylenth/Hive 2/Anima/Pigments/ANA 2/Falcon. But for free? Why not?

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Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:13 am
liquidsound wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:55 pm
AnX wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:12 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:50 pm For those of you who own Vital, Dune 3, and Hive as well the Text to Wavetables created in Vital work in both of them as well.
vice versa?
I don't know if you've got an answer but Vital loads Hive WT.
But not in .uhm format.
For sure. That would be very unusual.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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HTT wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 am From the videos I have seen, Vital is completely and totally underwhelming for anyone that already has any of the following: Serum/Sylenth/Hive 2/Anima/Pigments/ANA 2/Falcon. But for free? Why not?
Um, from what I've seen in this thread there are people who have some of those synths and still find Vital exciting. It seems strange that you're taking the time to let them know their impressions of their own feelings are wrong, based on you just having watched some videos when they have actually used the software.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pdxindy wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:36 pm Vital seems exceptionally good in this regard. I'm not sure what use cases you are talking about.
The use case of a user who doesn't want to create their own presets nor deep dive into tweaking anything.. but rather simply wants to fine-tune ALL pressure, modwheel etc incoming midi information sources to their hardware, in one simple action per source.

Imagine if samplers like Kontakt or sample libraries in general didn't have a way to quickly adjust the overall velocity mapping. Good luck going through each sample individually.
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