Finally!!! MturboAmp!!!!! Thank you!!!!

[AGIGA]

Pretty annoying that's all I hear is "don't want it to do what's been done"

Generally speaking (because I just read discussions on facebook about the turbo series and how users have problems with it): if a developer writes product descriptions with buzzwords like "simulating", "emulating", "the last plugin x" or puts presets in that clearly reference existing products, then you of course have to face the comparison, may it be in terms of sound, look & feel, workflow.

Yes, I think something like "inspired by" would suit the plugins better.
And the "Last plugin you'll ever need.." marketing will most certainly backfire on a company.

[TIMT]

Pretty sure he's going to edit it

the amp does it by itself, without any modulations. if MTurboAmp can't do it on its own, then it's not properly emulating an amp, is it?

Exactly. All those dynamic things are supposed to be intrinsic to the model, so if you have to add envelope followers and such, it's obviously not a very good model

Let's just say i am not holding my breath that this is going to be anything special if MTurboComp and EQ are anything to go by

MTurbReverb is an incredible tool though

Naa it's ok. i'm gonna roll with it

[steve2KVR]

...well, all I could say is the hype around here bothers you, do not, dooooo NOT go anywhere near Slate!

[Underoath77]

Never thought of it that way. That's why I suggested for the Turbo amp series, Vojtech partner or hire someone who know distortion and gain structures, as well as dynamics. No reason not to cover ever base with Melda....I mean MXXX could be far bigger if people thought a little broader.

Pretty annoying that's all I hear is "don't want it to do what's been done"

Generally speaking (because I just read discussions on facebook about the turbo series and how users have problems with it): if a developer writes product descriptions with buzzwords like "simulating", "emulating", "the last plugin x" or puts presets in that clearly reference existing products, then you of course have to face the comparison, may it be in terms of sound, look & feel, workflow.

[Chandlerhimself]

One thing to keep in mind is that this isn't an analog modeling amp with tubes and things in it. Instead of something that models analog components everything is digital, which IMO is easier to control. Instead of something like the Axefx or ReValver, think Kemper or blue cat's axiom. The Kemper doesn't have any tube modeling or take into account the amount of saturation from the transformer, etc, but it can sound almost exactly like most amps. It's something digital that can make the same sounds as hardware. This should be viewed the same way.

I think if it is thought of more like as AGIGA said "inspired by", people will appreciate it for what it is instead of trying to find out how far off it is from their favorite amp. Of course I want stuff that sounds like real amps, however the method that is used to achieve it doesn't seem that important. I beleive the real value of this plugin is that it will allow people to modify and create their own amps, so if something is off about a certain amp you can change it to suit your needs. No knowledge of electrical engineering required.

[Underoath77]

All right that's a fair point, but at the same time the capabilities shouldn't be short-sighted... There should be an ability to modify gain stages and mix various components from other metal plugins to make a realistic recreation of a guitar amp that might be a favorite. Using like you said, Mcabinet, Mfreeformeq, MturboAmp Etc. So I guess it would more rely upon the engine itself be able to create any kind of distortion or saturation?

One thing to keep in mind is that this isn't an analog modeling amp with tubes and things in it. Instead of something that models analog components everything is digital, which IMO is easier to control. Instead of something like the Axefx or ReValver, think Kemper or blue cat's axiom. The Kemper doesn't have any tube modeling or take into account the amount of saturation from the transformer, etc, but it can sound almost exactly like most amps. It's something digital that can make the same sounds as hardware. This should be viewed the same way.

I think if it is thought of more like as AGIGA said "inspired by", people will appreciate it for what it is instead of trying to find out how far off it is from their favorite amp. Of course I want stuff that sounds like real amps, however the method that is used to achieve it doesn't seem that important. I beleive the real value of this plugin is that it will allow people to modify and create their own amps, so if something is off about a certain amp you can change it to suit your needs. No knowledge of electrical engineering required.

[TIMT]

One thing to keep in mind is that this isn't an analog modeling amp with tubes and things in it. Instead of something that models analog components everything is digital, which IMO is easier to control. Instead of something like the Axefx or ReValver, think Kemper or blue cat's axiom. The Kemper doesn't have any tube modeling or take into account the amount of saturation from the transformer, etc, but it can sound almost exactly like most amps. It's something digital that can make the same sounds as hardware. This should be viewed the same way.

I think if it is thought of more like as AGIGA said "inspired by", people will appreciate it for what it is instead of trying to find out how far off it is from their favorite amp. Of course I want stuff that sounds like real amps, however the method that is used to achieve it doesn't seem that important. I beleive the real value of this plugin is that it will allow people to modify and create their own amps, so if something is off about a certain amp you can change it to suit your needs. No knowledge of electrical engineering required.

Perhaps you are not as far down the non-linear digital model rabbit hole that some other people in this thread are, but the argument against that kind of "inspired"modelling is from the get go those simplistic building blocks are not enough to get a decent enough emulation of analog distortion period. that's speaking from the perspective of something basic like a Class A preamp with a single gainstage as well, When you start to involve multiple gainstages and almost instant feedback loops (the devil of DSP) like is the case with amps and the complex interactions with the load you feed it, those complexities become gargantuan, which means it is unfeasible to accomplish with those prior mentioned basic building blocks. Throw all the modulation, waveshapers, filter blocks you want at it, it's never going to sound or respond like an amp. Also assuming if MCabinet is going to be a part of the model then he would need to figure a way to get it to "communicate" with whatever he does to do the poweramp model to be convincing. as simply having it at the end of the chain wont be enough to create the influence the load has on the amp and input/output transformers. I'm just thinking out loud

[Underoath77]

Slowly realizing that. Got excited for nothing....

One thing to keep in mind is that this isn't an analog modeling amp with tubes and things in it. Instead of something that models analog components everything is digital, which IMO is easier to control. Instead of something like the Axefx or ReValver, think Kemper or blue cat's axiom. The Kemper doesn't have any tube modeling or take into account the amount of saturation from the transformer, etc, but it can sound almost exactly like most amps. It's something digital that can make the same sounds as hardware. This should be viewed the same way.

I think if it is thought of more like as AGIGA said "inspired by", people will appreciate it for what it is instead of trying to find out how far off it is from their favorite amp. Of course I want stuff that sounds like real amps, however the method that is used to achieve it doesn't seem that important. I beleive the real value of this plugin is that it will allow people to modify and create their own amps, so if something is off about a certain amp you can change it to suit your needs. No knowledge of electrical engineering required.

Perhaps you are not as far down the non-linear digital model rabbit hole that some other people in this thread are, but the argument against that kind of "inspired"modelling is from the get go those simplistic building blocks are not enough to get a decent enough emulation of analog distortion period. that's speaking from the perspective of something basic like a Class A preamp with a single gainstage as well, When you start to involve multiple gainstages and almost instant feedback loops (the devil of DSP) like is the case with amps and the complex interactions with the load you feed it, those complexities become gargantuan, which means it is unfeasible to accomplish with those prior mentioned basic building blocks. Throw all the modulation, waveshapers, filter blocks you want at it, it's never going to sound or respond like an amp. Also assuming if MCabinet is going to be a part of the model then he would need to figure a way to get it to "communicate" with whatever he does to do the poweramp model to be convincing. as simply having it at the end of the chain wont be enough to create the influence the load has on the amp and input/output transformers. I'm just thinking out loud

[Chandlerhimself]

All right that's a fair point, but at the same time the capabilities shouldn't be short-sighted... There should be an ability to modify gain stages and mix various components from other metal plugins to make a realistic recreation of a guitar amp that might be a favorite. Using like you said, Mcabinet, Mfreeformeq, MturboAmp Etc. So I guess it would more rely upon the engine itself be able to create any kind of distortion or saturation?

I'm not sure what you mean by "various components from other metal plugins", but it can already modify the gain stages and create different kinds of distortion. You can use it to make a high gain amp right now, however you may not be able to make one that sounds the way you like. It will take time for people to figure out how MTA can be used to make various sounds.

I'm 99% sure Vojtech won't be doing any analog modeling in the traditional sense, so I wouldn't expect this to have things like tube swapping or anything like that. Using a digital approach like this will actually allow a wider range of tones than analog modeling. Let's wait until some amps have been designed.

[ElVincente]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

[Faiky]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

[Chandlerhimself]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

Sounds really good. I love how you opened up the volume and let it rip at the end. Nice Vibrato and playing.

[ElVincente]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

Sounds really good. I love how you opened up the volume and let it rip at the end. Nice Vibrato and playing.

Thanks for the feedback! Happy you liked it! Exactly what you said about opening the volume in the end, to me not all ampsims allow to dial settings wich plays nice with volume change. There's no automation at all on this track.

[MeldaProduction]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

Very well, sounds like an adept for a device for MTurboAmp!

[ElVincente]

Well here is a cover I made quickly yesterday.
https://soundcloud.com/user-637213504/all-of-me
A student of mine is learning that song, so I figure It would be great if she could practice on a cover that would sound something like if we were playing as a duet (wich is the goal here...)

Anyway, I used Ezkeys and the guitar is all melda all the way : MTurboAmp -> MCabinet -> MDelayMB -> MturboReverb.
I Thought it was a real pleasure to play with MTA dialing the tone on my stratocaster tweanking the volume knob. To me that sound real enough. What do you think of it guys ?

Very well, sounds like an adept for a device for MTurboAmp!

I would enjoy making a device of it but I need some more time to wrap my head around simple controls that would get the most of it in an easy way... And I have very little time available since I'm moving soon and with christmas etc... Are you planning to release MTurboAmp anytime soon ?
Here's another try in a more brutal style ! Sorry for the sloppy playing ...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m13i34vr94rf5 ... 0Metal.mp3

Cheers

Edit : I don't know why, but seems it can not be played directly by clicking the play button, you have to right click -> open in another tab ...