The one thing I still don't like about it after several months is that some settings are in Control Panel and some are in Settings. You often have to check both of them if you want to change something (like toggling privacy settings for camera, mic etc.) But I guess that's typical Microsoft.
2020 a year in gear (what have you/are you bought/buying?)
- KVRAF
- 8078 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yeah, that sucks. There's been a lot of migration from the control panel to the settings now though, it used to be much more fractured. Eventually, everything will be available from the settings, just a matter of time.foosnark wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:47 pmThe one thing I still don't like about it after several months is that some settings are in Control Panel and some are in Settings. You often have to check both of them if you want to change something (like toggling privacy settings for camera, mic etc.)
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no doubt! only 4 days in so to be expected. not so much a complaint as an observation at the moment, weird! by virtue of being unfamiliar.chk071 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:46 pm I wouldn't wanna go back from Win 10, ever. I'm sure you'll get adjusted.![]()
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
if ms want to listen to what my mic picks up they're welcome, mainly weird noise and coughing.foosnark wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:47 pmThe one thing I still don't like about it after several months is that some settings are in Control Panel and some are in Settings. You often have to check both of them if you want to change something (like toggling privacy settings for camera, mic etc.) But I guess that's typical Microsoft.
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Sounds like the Roland boutique SE-02 would be more up your street.chk071 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:46 pm On topic: I'm, wondering if I should get the Behringer Model D. It somewhat itches, at the price it's available at the moment. I'm just not sure if it's the right thing for me... having to warm the thing up for 15 minutes, the cabling, and the thought of having to adjust the thing at some point when it goes out of tune... no patch memory, just one instance, bouncing everything... IDK, IDK.
Guess I'll stick to Monark for now. Seems like the more sober thing to do.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I guess, but costs almost double what the Model D costs. I really would have just bought it for the silly price it goes for at the moment.
But... I think I'm fine with the softies.
Until my next "I need this!" momentary attack. 
But... I think I'm fine with the softies.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
15 mins warm up?
are you in the arctic?
are you in the arctic?
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Just quoted from the manual. Actually, I have no idea now long analog synths need to get "optimal" pitch stability.
4.3.1 Warm Up Time
We recommend leaving 15 minutes or more time for the MODEL D to warm up
before recording or live performance. (Longer if it has been brought in from the
cold.) This will allow the precision analog circuits time to reach their normal
operating temperature and tuned performance.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
id expect it with old components, not so much newer.
unless your house is freezing.
room temp should be fine.
and maybe a few mins just to get it fully juiced!
unless your house is freezing.
room temp should be fine.
and maybe a few mins just to get it fully juiced!
- KVRAF
- 13133 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I think anything which uses a temperature compensated exponential converter will need a few minutes to warm up, whether it's new or old. So anything that uses 1v/Oct scaling. Usually there is a tempco resistor across the exponential converter.
In practice, it's never been something I really notice. Then again, I rarely tune up before recording, lol.
In practice, it's never been something I really notice. Then again, I rarely tune up before recording, lol.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yeah a few mins.
we had an old mini at the studio, that did take a noticeable time to be anything but wobbly. but ive never noticed any drifting with any of my own analogues, not even the bug which is getting on now.
but yup, could be that i don't care so don't notice. i don't even tune my guitar often
we had an old mini at the studio, that did take a noticeable time to be anything but wobbly. but ive never noticed any drifting with any of my own analogues, not even the bug which is getting on now.
but yup, could be that i don't care so don't notice. i don't even tune my guitar often
- KVRAF
- 13879 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
{cough} $399 ... having had a play with both, it's well worth the difference IMHO. Unless of course, you simply must have that "authentic" sound.chk071 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:58 pm I guess, but costs almost double what the Model D costs. I really would have just bought it for the silly price it goes for at the moment.
But... I think I'm fine with the softies.Until my next "I need this!" momentary attack.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
425 € here at Thomann, and the Behringer Model D is only 261 € on Amazon. It's not that I couldn't afford it, but, I set myself a really tight budget for a hobby I'm merely pursuing once a month, if even, that's why I don't want to sped too much money on it.
Anyway, I'm really fine with Monark. It has "that" sound, combined with all the wonderful advantages of software.
I don't think I'd be a hardware guy anyway. If I buy the Boog, I need some more hardware to feed it (arpeggiator/sequencer, effects etc.), and then I would feel limited by the monophony, and then I'd need another poly hardware synth, and then I'd be bored one day, and then I need another hardware synth etc. etc. I know how it is, and I see that people very rarely have one hardware device only, so... 
Anyway, I'm really fine with Monark. It has "that" sound, combined with all the wonderful advantages of software.
- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Windows 10 is the very best version I've ever used, and I started out with "Version 3.11 Windows for Workgroups".
Actually, I started out with an Atari 400 computer, a temperamental cassette tape drive, no floppy drive, and no hard drive, but we won't dwell on that.
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- KVRAF
- 13879 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Ah, I see. I confess, I was torn between reinforcing your being content with Monark, and suggesting what I did (assuming there was a legit interest in the two). The underlined bit there is important to remember. PARTICULARLY if eurorack ever peaks your interest.chk071 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:08 pm 425 € here at Thomann, and the Behringer Model D is only 261 € on Amazon. It's not that I couldn't afford it, but, I set myself a really tight budget for a hobby I'm merely pursuing once a month, if even, that's why I don't want to sped too much money on it.
Anyway, I'm really fine with Monark. It has "that" sound, combined with all the wonderful advantages of software.I don't think I'd be a hardware guy anyway. If I buy the Boog, I need some more hardware to feed it (arpeggiator/sequencer, effects etc.), and then I would feel limited by the monophony, and then I'd need another poly hardware synth, and then I'd be bored one day, and then I need another hardware synth etc. etc. I know how it is, and I see that people very rarely have one hardware device only, so...
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